14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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I'm not sure what world you're living in but a dead murderer stops murdering right after achieving room temperature.

 

Well I don't remember periodic mass murder of children in schools in Canada.
Do stop the whatifs. They cut no ice.

 

If you think you’re making fun of me the basic requirement is to be funny.

You fail.

All you have is distraction and weasel justification, when you would do better being honest and express your admiration that modern guns can be so accurate and effective. It must give you a warm glow inside.

 

Because I focused on items we CAN control today and immediately fix. Gun control is a partisan issue that won't be resolved in a matter of days. We've seen that the vast majority of these mass shootings involved mental illness and or they were on some form of psychotropic pharmaceuticals. And there has been studies showing a link between these homicidal tendencies and psychotropic drugs.

Psychiatric Drugs & Violence—The Facts

 

the same boring thing you guys have been preaching for the last 40 years not really.

You have to cut escape the first that'll be a civil war.

I have I know it by heart.

I have read it I've never seen that gibberish in it.

If you're going to lie at least do so where you can't be so easily debunked.

She was like it says there that the right of the people to keep it their arms.

I didn't read anything in that text anywhere that said you had to be in a militia to be the people and to have the right of the people.

 

well go ahead and pretend it has to do with these stupid laws of people today that have nothing to do with mass murder or stopping it.

So it's not possible ever to smuggle anything into Canada?

Well we don't have a magical fairies protecting our borders here in the states.

 

Someone has asked for an original thought. Here's the best I can come up with: too many Americans have just lost their will to live. Mass shooters (almost always male, and young) expect to be killed and want to take a few people down with them.

Why they have lost their will to live I don't know, but it's probably tied up with depression, and I don't mean treatable, clinical depression. They feel they are doomed to failure and a pointless life of frustration, loneliness, and unhappiness. That is likely tied up with modern technology somehow -- alienation from productive work, the belief that they cannot be useful, though they can. There are plenty of jobs and other lonely people -- but they don't know it, or don't care.

Others have mentioned that you didn't see kids in the 50's -70's shooting up schools, even though their guns were visible in their racks inside their trucks parked on school grounds. They had even more guns at home. There were no trigger locks or gun safes, nor school safety strategies. Nor security officers. There were fewer gun laws then than now. You didn't even have to worry about going to a bar at midnight on the wrong side of the tracks in my home town. There were fist fights occasionally, though even those were rare, but certainly no mass shootings. What changed?

I suspect video games and violent movies. You don't have to go outside and successfully mingle to be entertained anymore. Add in guns and high capacity magazines and ... watch out.

 

I'm laughing pretty hard.

See above.

all you have is duh ban guns. Duh your penis is small.

Laughing at you has made me feel thanks for the laughs.

 

That laws are influenced by morality.

 

I agree that other nations are not beset by numerous school shootings, but an intrusion detection system would help our situation.

 

as far as I'm concerned the case is settled.

You wouldn't control murderers by making it illegal for them to have a gun. That has got to be the single dumbest idea I've ever heard in my entire posting history on this forum.

Burger is already a crime they don't obey that long it carries a harsher penalty than possessing it illegal firearm they do not give a **** about your pity ass little penalties if they're going to serve 30 consecutive life sentences.

I just destroyed your entire position with an objective reality I don't need to do that it's been done a thousand times before.

I'm arguing with people who have no idea about how planet Earth operates.

I don't think any words anyone ever said ever will be useful to you at all.

You have some bat **** screwed up version of the second amendment that doesn't exist in the Constitution you told me that said something that it clearly didn't say and then you posted the text that proves you wrong.

You're beyond my help.

 

Guns are not necessary for you because others do your killing for you.

 

Of course. There's no way around that fact. Banning guns sure as hell won't change anything.

The key is to get the murdering freaks off the street. Make the death penalty mandatory for first degree murder.

There are lots of things that can be done, without violating the rights of 320,000,000 citizens.

 

If you inferring that a sniper could pick off children at 500m, yeah but a sniper can do that anywhere like in Las Vegas.

An intrusion detection system is a security alarm, not a physical defense. Doing nothing is not an answer let alone a solution.

 

If the bad guy has a gun, I need a gun, too.

 

The Code was about property and other rights. We do not currently set laws based on morality as that's a choice for each individual.

 

Yeah... And the reason you so rarely see this in any other country is because they have no crazy people, right?

 

How did you know they're all going to be destroyed because there's a magical fairy that's just going to take them all away from me everyone.

 

Yeah we rarely see murder at El Salvador highest murder rate in the world but it's nothing compared to ours.

 

Oh... Constitutionally we most definitely CAN ban all guns. Politically it would be more difficult.

If by "constitutionally" you are referring to the 2nd A, you can look at the threads in the corresponding forum:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/english-101-for-gun-advocates.585785/
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/english-102-to-keep-and-bear-arms.586083/
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/history-101-why-the-2nd-amendment.586263/
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...form-part-of-a-well-regulated-militia.589757/

 

Be serious. Police aren't being defunded, but police would love to have fewer guns in the hands of the general public. A lot of cops lose their lives to gun violence as well.

Tuesday's massacre is the second-deadliest school shooting since 2012, when 26 children and adults were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School. It is at least the 30th shooting at a K-12 school in 2022, according to a CNN tally.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-wednesday/index.html​

That's a hell of a norm we've come to accept as a nation, isn't it?

 

Bingo!!!!

So now we know that existing laws don't work.

 

If you think anything you’re saying is landing you’re delusional.
You go on about illegal verses legal guns, the legality created by laws set by the very government you argue you need guns to protect yourself from.
The government oppresses but by the way you support the laws it makes.
Ever read 1984? You indulge in doublethink.

 

FYI, there's just a wee bit more than property rights.

https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/hammurabi

That said, what objective science is behind abortion laws.

 

Never claimed you did.

My point is simple. If you can have heavy security, you can ban firearms from the public in your venue. However, you can't hire that kind of security for every single elementary school in the country. So disarming everybody who works there and having no security at all just invites attacks like this, sandy hook, columbine, virginia tech, etc

You've made my argument for me, security is necessary, however it's handled, but make no mistake, it is necessary.