A Challenge To Anyone

One big help (though without a guarantee) would be trained armed patrol officers at every school. Allowing teachers and staff to conceal carry would also help. Another would be screening of everybody entering the school though that would be terribly obtrusive and might take staff and teachers longer to enter the school as to actually be in school. There is nothing that would eliminate the problem with certainty. I do not think scuttling the 2nd amendment, while giving some emotional satisfaction, would help much at all.

 

Bottom line, you will never control Guns and accessories until you control the availability.. Sadly our boarders "As they stand today" are a huge pipeline for any and all contraband, human/drug/firearm/accessories.. Until we close and secure those you will never control availability of anything..

Game OVER!

 

With easy access to guns in the US already why do you think smuggling them in is a part of the problem? I suspect you don't, but can't resist bringing up the great border security bogeyman.

 

So why didn't these shootings happen 75 years ago when access to guns was far easier and guns were a much bigger part of peoples lives? Everybody knew how to shoot guns back then. There were gun racks in the back windows of every truck.

If your reasoning is sound, then it would've been much worse back then, but that's not true. The reason is simple, it's not gun culture or access to guns that's changed, it's the people.

 

Although, with very little research, one will find that the UK makes a lot of money selling 9MM and other assorted firearms and accessories in the U.S. and around the world..

Funny how that works, huh

 

That would be the criminal element. Thats was a very odd question Lee

 

We don't control the laws in other countries.
We can't stop Americans selling/giving guns to children.

Firearms, especially handguns were already severely restricted before the Dunblane massacre in '96.
The handgun ban was implemented by a Conservative government with bi-partisan support and the approval of the vast majority of the electorate.
It has been seen to have worked and 25 years later there is no support for relaxing our gun laws.
No one I have ever known, outside the military, has ever been shot.
I wonder how many Americans can say that.

 

Agreed, but places like the UK make available and profit off of and then sit back on the high horse pointing fingers, hypocrisy or just plain evil contradiction, you make the call

 

Well I don't see why we should stop manufacturing arms just because some countries don't know how to handle them.
We've shown you the way to stop school massacres, not our fault if you have such vested interests in protecting your huge gun industry that you refuse to take note.

 

The vast majority of Americans do not know anyone that has been shot. Clearly the odds are exaggerated in your mind.

If you were to go to the ghetto it would be a different answer, but everywhere else? People do not typically know anyone that has been shot.

 

Hell ya, and the added perk of pointing fingers at what those products cause is just icing on the hypocritical cake

 

I don't believe you.
Over 100,000 shot a year.
That's a million in the last decade.

 

Clearly the odds are exaggerated in your mind.

Sincerely, it is not a situation where all Americans know people that have been shot. The vast majority of shootings occur in the inner cities, and if you were to ask a person living in the ghetto, they probably know hundreds of people that have been shot, but everywhere else? not so much.

If someone outside of the ghetto does know someone that has been shot, it was overwhelmingly likely due to a suicide, which is sort of a different thing. There are an awful lot of ways a person can decide to kill themselves.

 

Honestly, I truly do not know anyone who's been shot. That isn't to say we don't have a real problem here. I'm just simply stating your generalization is just that.

 

Correct. Unless we the people agree to.

 

Because of the media showing just how much devastation and pain each of these mass shootings causes. It's not the gun culture, the gun is just the tool to inflict the pain. That pain is what these shooters are after. That and the media infamy. One could argue that the gun allows these disturbed morons the ability to inflict mass pain and they'd be correct, but blaming the gun misses the point. Because of our media and our consumption of it, especially when it comes to tragic events, the motivation to do these types of things for people who want to inflict pain or are just batshit crazy is high. Because it works. Even if they die by their own hand or someone else's, the rest of us are going to sit here wallowing in it. For weeks, months, years.

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, if we want to stop these kinds of shootings, we need to stop talking about them completely. They need to be banished from the media. The media turns each of these shootings into an advertisement for future shooters, even though that's not their intention.

 

Gonna have to change my name to Pavlov. But instead of a drooling dog, we have trained seals. Right on cue. Well done!

 

Does seem odd you want these evil groomers to be armed. Make up your mind...are they evil groomers or are they protectors?

 

Binary much?

 

And there's the irony. You really are the gift that keeps giving.

 

No need to thank me. It's all part of the service.

 

i thought the problem was white supremacy
Oh wait!
Shooter wasn’t white
Or is he?
Do we know how he identified on that day?

 

How dare you assume "his" pronouns, you evil transphobic kkk loving Margaret Sanger-humping nazi. I hope you drown in your White Privilege™.

 

it is amazing how fast our teachers went from horrible union indoctrinators to "good guys with guns."

 

We are hamstrung. Too many people do not want to make any personal sacrificees, spend any money, or make this a priority in the voting booth.
That means my plan is simple: accept that this will continue to happen since not enough people are willing to deal with this as a problem.