14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Armed citizens are free.
     
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    One was a school resource officer who was already there before the shooter arrived!
     
  3. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Like this is the first time I've heard this argument.

    Do you even know that the Swiss are not allowed to walk around with their guns?

    They have to be kept under lock and key at home at all times except for military exercises or hunting.

    And when they go out with it, the gun must be locked.

    In fact, the Swiss rules surrounding the possession of guns are among the strictest in the world.

    Don't thank me for educating you.
     
  4. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

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    Personally I go under 2 every time, I'm pretty sure you're at that time frame if you're using a shot timer. You're right that's a proper cleaning per target! I don't think 1.2 sec is out of the question if you shoot a lot.
     
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  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I understand that you had to go back before there were background checks to attempt to prove that background checks haven't been a total failure.
     
  6. HurricaneDitka

    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

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    Link?
     
  7. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

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    Because protocol is to send any local LEO to every school within X radius during events like this. There is not a police officer standing around every elementary school in Texas, it's very expensive.
     
  8. Thedimon

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    The kid was a mental, that’s for sure.
    I’m curious if he is an immigrant and whether his immigration status is in good standing. His appearance and name makes one wonder, though I realize that he might as well have been born in the U.S.
    Everyone is being awfully quiet about this. Could it be that the easiest way to prevent this particular massacre of children was by enforcing our current immigration laws? I’m not speculating, but I’m sure I’m not the only one wondering here.
     
  9. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    I support all political actions that can lead to a decrease in mass shooting.

    Except, the reality is that since Abbott became governor, more than 60 of his fellow citizens have been killed by crazed gunmen.

    So his measures seem to be ineffective.
     
  10. Buri

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    Remember when I asked you WHO was committing gun violence and you ran away? Would you like a reminder?

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

    So, now you know who is committing most of the gun crime! I feel better when I help you with things like this. Also, remind us how awesome Mexico is with gun control keeping the cartels at bay.

    I'll wait.
     
  11. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    To justify the proliferation of guns here, Republicans like you are comparing the US to third world countries.

    Are you proud to live in a place a little better than Mexico?... or would you rather live in a country with almost no mass shooting? .... like Canada.
     
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    Canada, once we have the resources and means to do so.

    And no, it's not the promised land, I never said it was.

    But, IMO, it is a better country than the USA, especially right now.

    Until then, I will use every resource and legal means to CHANGE the USA into being the country I want it to be, as will you.

    In the meantime, we will have to live with the country we have. I don't think your gun will save you, in the end. But good luck.
     
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    "Multiple targets from an advanced range"
    Don't know much about firearms, do you ?
     
  14. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Those who commit mass shootings are gun nuts.
     
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    it's got nothing to do with justifying the proliferation of guns or being proud about where I live. You made a claim that was false. You said " ...there are practically no more mass killings - committed with any weapon - when a country strictly regulates the access to guns...". Do you now acknowledge that this claim is false?
     
  16. Buri

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    Who, drumroll, also drink water your conversations are just super. Also, the people who protect you from yourself are gun nuts. Wait, is this just another deflection of WHO COMMITS the violent crime?

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

    Just in case you missed the link. What is YOUR plan on stopping those gun nuts?
     
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    if I might offer a suggestion that will probably leave us both happier in the long run, it would be to focus more on the first highlight and less on the second, at least as far as your resources are concerned. You'll get there sooner and antagonize people less.

    I'd probably feel differently if you weren't leaving, but since you're on your way out anyways, there's no need to be a rude houseguest and complain about the decor as you're walking out the door.

    Best of luck to you either way.
     
  18. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The overwhelming majority of mass shooting are in inner city black neighborhoods. A political action that would MASSIVELY decrease mass shooting would be a 3 strikes and your out policy. After 3 felony convictions, a perp would get an automatic mandatory 40 year sentence with no possibility of parole and no chance for the judge to reduce the sentence. This would reduce mass shooting by 70% immediately. WE have had multiple mass shooting in Milwaukee this year and they were all done by gang bangers. They barely even make the local news anymore.... much the less the national news.

    If you are sincere about wanting to reduce mass shooting (and murder in general) you would support this passionately.
     
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  19. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Laws work when they are enforced by a competent administration.

    Like in Australia, Canada, France, the UK and everywhere else in the West.

    You want to talk about real comparables, go see what these countries have done to fight gun violence.

    And don't come back to me about Mexico.
     
  20. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’re wrong, I saw them, so did millions of other people. Here’s a screen shot of Zman’s lawyer showing the pic on tv.

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    ORLANDO, Fla. – George Zimmerman's defense attorneys on Thursday released photos and text messages from 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's cellphone ahead of a hearing that will determine whether they can be used at Zimmerman's murder trial.

    Zimmerman is charged with fatally shooting Martin last year during a confrontation at a gated community in Sanford. He is pleading not guilty, claiming self-defense. His trial starts next month.

    The photos show Martin blowing smoke and extending his middle finger to the camera. The photos also show a gun and what appears to be a potted marijuana plant.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/defense-releases-photos-texts-of-trayvon-martin#ixzz2U8deswzu


    [​IMG]The death of Trayvon Martin turned into a national referendum on race in America, particularly on the issue of black male stereotypes. Since George Zimmerman shot Martin on that fateful night in Florida, people have taken sides based on their predisposition to racial oppression. Liberals saw the killing as a talking point on gun control, African Americans saw the killing as a painful reminder of segregation and racial profiling. Conservatives seem to think that if they can brand Martin as a thug or hoodlum, that this justifies him being shot while unarmed.

    [​IMG]

    A series of images shared on Buzzfeed certainly show a different side of Trayvon. They show him allegedly holding a gun, giving the middle finger, and talking to a friend about beating up another person for snitching.

    https://yourblackworld.net/2013/05/...un-giving-the-finger-now-circulating-the-web/
     
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  21. HurricaneDitka

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    Would you support, for example, Japanese-internment-style camps for certain demographics that have shown themselves to be particularly prone to violence?
     
  22. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Who says so?

    What I'm saying is that the US should take a leaf out of the book of other nations that have had the same problem in the past and have fiercely fought against the proliferation of guns.
     
  23. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Uh, what?...lol
     
  24. Esau

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    USA police and USA military is corrupt and inspired by kkk with racist foreign agendas. This is the problem if you're only arming them. USA culture is corrupted and wicked. Look at all of the school shooters. 90% of child homicide is in USA. Your culture is doomed
     
  25. Par10

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    That's all you got out of what I said? Let's skip the part about the press's involvement and since we can't force people to change their culture, we should not work on it. In fact, why don't we promote the culture that is giving us death?
     

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