"Go f**k yourselves", Zelensky office tells Western Officials

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  1. Bill Carson

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    https://thepressunited.com/updates/go-fk-yourselves-zelensky-office-tells-western-officials/

    "Presidential advisor called Westerners urging concessions in the name of peace ‘dumb f**ks’"

    Nice. After the morons in Washington DC throw $53 billion down the drain in the shithole that is Ukraine, Ukraine's finest are telling us to go F**K ourselves.

    I mean, when are people going to wake up to this ignorance? I suppose they've stolen enough and now are just showing the world for who they are.

    If you pro Ukie people don't like my link, just google the topic and pick whichever you like.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    We should do what he says and stop sending aid and money. It seems right now Zelensky is getting ready to invade Russia. He no longer needs our help.
     
  3. Melb_muser

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    He is? Got a link?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Never heard of either of them.

    What constitutes being an advisor nowadays? My neighbour John advises me regularly on how to prune my plants in my garden.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://t.me/s/sskarnaukhov

    Translated:
    Hackers from the RaHDIt team, known for simultaneously hacking 755 Ukrainian websites at the beginning of the CBO, launched an information portal where they install and post the faces of Ukrainian nationalists and their accomplices.​

    More fake news from pro-Putin propagandists.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, not really. I'm just saying he no longer needs our help

    I do think that is very possibly Zelensky's overall strategy at this point. I can't see the other nations in the Russian Federation supporting Putin much longer now.
     
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    Never heard of this link....another $hithouse wall graffiti Bill?:)
     
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "News" from New Delhi, India citing a Russian propaganda Telegram video :lol:
     
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    And he is right - Ukrainians are shedding a lot of blood for their country and being told to concede some territory is pretty much telling Ukrainians that they should abandon Ukrainians in Kherson or Donbas and let Russia rape, rob, starve (1933), or just kill them off at will. Territories are not empty, they have people living there.
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    In areas that are not light blue people voted for European integration. They didn’t want to normalize the relationship with Russia. Giving up Kherson region, for example, would betray millions of people.
    So, yes, people who float such ideas are idiots. A territorial concession like that would spark an internal conflict. If the west cuts off its support then Ukrainians should destroy the gas pipeline and all agricultural export links for the duration of the conflict, even if that conflict becomes a guerrilla war. It took USSR like what, 20 years, to suppress Ukrainian resistance after WW2? They can dig in and degrade their agriculture to a level where it can only support Ukrainians in Ukraine and nobody else.
    Everyone thinks of Russia as an energy giant, but they are forgetting that food is also energy that we all absolutely require to function on biological level, and abandonment of Ukraine would eliminate a lot of food from the worlds market. Ukraine has leverage, just like Russia, and it should not be shy to use it.
     
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    Arestovich did make that statement yesterday and he is right. Zelensky also addressed this and said this would create an illusion of peace, but won’t calm Russian imperial ambitions.
    Finland conceded territories to Russia before WW2 and Russians still feel like they can call the shots in Finland’s foreign policy.
     
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    Yeah, I figure it's Russia just employing their usual propaganda tactics (by sharing this) to try and drive wedges between Ukrainians and between Ukraine and the West on the issue of this war. We will continue to see "stories" like this from such reputable sources as this New Dehli site and the Russian "hackers" Telegram channel it cites in the Putin regime's bid to win this war through propaganda as much as military power. The orcs don't like seeing Ukraine and the world's top economic and military powers united to kick them out of Ukraine.
     
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    Who knows....links such as this are made up who knows where and peddled as fact. I've seen enough dubious it's on here....with errors to think otherwise.
     
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    https://t.me/O_Arestovich_official/2115

    Here is the link to the video where Arestovich made this statement. If you were to include all of the context with that statement, where he said that some Ukrainians had to do the impossible during the fighting, when some went into a fight knowing they won’t make it out alive, and how wrong it is to betray them, then you’d see why he got emotional and said everyone who attempts to pressure Ukraine into concessions should go and join cruiser Moskva.
     
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    I looked around, it is reported on a few off the wall websites, nothing on the major or medium level sites.
    Two points:
    Arestovich is an advisor. Who knows exactly what that means, but I don't think he is the spokesperson for Ukraine.
    I can understand his feelings, after watching his fellow patriots fighting against a formidable force so gallantly, I don't blame him for his passion.
    I do not think that his opinion or statements in any way, shape or form should influence Western powers' decisions.
     
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    True colors shining through.
     
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    It is in the long term interest of America that western Europe remain free, strong, and independent. NATO exists because of Russia. If Russia was a peaceful nation there would be no need for NATO. Russia, China, and Iran, are the long term threats to our freedom and well being and the would be a better place without them.
    Until Putin is sent to “The Vodka Bottle in the Sky” the west has to keep chipping away at the dwindling number of able bodied Russians fit enough to be soldiers, workers, or farmers.
     
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    Only thing I would argue is that Russia, China and Iran have the right to be what they choose, and I don't see any of them as threats to our (USA) freedom. I think there are more internal dangers to our freedom than those countries, or any others for that matter.
    No one would like the US to collapse, as they all depend on us in one way or another, and they definitely don't want to go toe-to-toe with the US.
    All will succeed or fail on their own accords, but Iran is the most volatile and weakest of the group.
    Agree 100% with the red highlighted.
     
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    China’s talk of “rebalancing” means returning the world to dynasties and empires. China has zero use for “inalienable rights”. All power is with the state. Russia and Iran are both on board with that.
     
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    I did read somewhere that apparently Ukraine is planning to go on the offensive to retake the territory it lost since 2014.
    https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/putins-worst-nightmare-is-ukraine-preparing-to-retake-crimea/
    Thats the supposed hangup in 'peace negotiations'- neither Russia nor Ukraine will consider ceding back the 'independent' regions nor the currently Russian crimea and even the Russian naval base in Sevastopal, but apparently Ukraine cant take them back without billions more of our dollars.

    It doesnt look like Zelensky literally said '**** off', but thats kinda the gist of his response to recomendations they consider ceding territory in exchange for ending the war.
    https://thehill.com/news/3502032-ze...-suggestion-ukraine-cede-territory-to-russia/
     
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    Does it help? If it does, recommend him to your friends. ;)
     
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    I have no problem with the statement.
     
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    Don't forget all the money invested into Afghanistan over 20 years was flushed down the drain too.

    That was more than $2 trillion.
     
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    And that's ok, as long as they don't expect the US to follow suit. And I don't think anyone thinks they can bend the US to their will.
    We don't want anyone else telling us how to govern, do we? That's the number one way we can piss off the other countries.
     
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    Typical American thinking.
     
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    Go **** yourselves, but send us $7 Billion a month while you do it.
     
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