Texas shooter struggled with mental health, family dysfunction, was fascinated with guns

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Arkanis, May 25, 2022.

  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,175
    Likes Received:
    14,936
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're perpetrating a lie. At least I'm willing to admit the tranny claim is bullshit. See the difference?
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,298
    Likes Received:
    31,349
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm glad you have changed your mind about the "tranny claim." I wish it hadn't taken so much back-and-forth to get you to admit that, but at least we go there. That's commendable. Now, what lie am I perpetrating?
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2022
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,149
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please quote me defending such laws. I believe dangerous people should lost their Second and Fourth Amendment rights. Can you name a single gun law that doesn't benefit killers?
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,803
    Likes Received:
    63,162
    Trophy Points:
    113
    to be fair, the 2nd applies to ALL free Americans.... if someone is too dangerous to own a gun, they are too dangerous to be free and walking our streets

    when one needs the privilege to have a right, then they are no longer rights... they are privileges

    we could remove the 2nd and make it like driving a car, then we could restrict people more if that is what we want to do - but let's not water down our rights
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2022
    HurricaneDitka likes this.
  5. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,541
    Likes Received:
    17,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a start, the problem is that normal people can buy an AR-15 today and become unstable in the future.

    The wide availability of guns creates an environment that facilitates mass killings.
     
    MiaBleu likes this.
  6. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    13,576
    Likes Received:
    5,005
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since 'outgunned ' became a reality.
     
  7. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,066
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    @yardmeat

    Notice the part where it says that he would sometimes wear makeup?
     
    CharisRose and SiNNiK like this.
  8. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    13,576
    Likes Received:
    5,005
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If they carried a modern semi auto they had 15 or as much as 18 rounds. Are you saying they were all carrying revolvers?
     
    557 likes this.
  9. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,298
    Likes Received:
    31,349
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And?
     
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,066
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because normal teenage boys often wear makeup...
     
    CharisRose and SiNNiK like this.
  11. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    13,576
    Likes Received:
    5,005
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I haven't seen any report that stated what either the officers or the shooter were actually armed with. "Assault rifle" can be a number of misnamed semi auto rifles.
     
  12. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,298
    Likes Received:
    31,349
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Makeup =/= trans. I don't care about what you consider "normal."
     
  13. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,149
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I realize you were told that and know very little about firearms. Can you name one gun law that doesn't benefit killers?
     
  14. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,149
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In the 80s they did! :p
     
  15. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,541
    Likes Received:
    17,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I guess there are states where background checks are more stringent than in Texas.
     
  16. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,471
    Likes Received:
    25,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is irrelevant. You do not have to be a sharpshooter to hit a head or a leg at close range.

    1. The survival instinct, when you are cornered, makes you engage the threat.
    2. The survival instinct, when you are in a safe position, like the police, makes you stay where you are.
     
    Buri likes this.
  17. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    what does the model of the gun matter? Can you explain it or are you just saying things you read somewhere?
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  18. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What do you actually know about the background check? I have a wager here…
     
    CharisRose and SiNNiK like this.
  19. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2016
    Messages:
    10,341
    Likes Received:
    6,383
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I did look it up and it sounds like it was a 4chan bullshit straighten the MaGa bullhorn.

    But either way the kid was psycho
     
  20. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,149
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I live in one of those states. I don't object to BK checks, but I don't believe they do any good.
     
  21. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,541
    Likes Received:
    17,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So it takes more restrictive measures.
     
  22. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,522
    Likes Received:
    2,941
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    To the bold, so your original statement of you need a license to own a matching gun isn’t exactly correct.

    If you want to have one that was made this morning, you would need an FFL license which is what dealers and manufacturers get. An individual can get one, but typically they do not seek one as it’s not typically needed. Also, if you are a police officer, no license is needed. There are some other criteria that allow you to own one without a license, but let’s be realistic, you can own a machine gun, you don’t need to be licensed, and frankly, machine guns aren’t much of an issue if at all.

    If you want to license all guns, then you have turned a civil right into a privilege and that’s no bueno.
     
  23. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,149
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you have info on the DOJ factoring in which state submits the BK check? I don't see a difference. Where I live, Los Angeles, our gun laws are the most restrictive. Results show that we are no safer as a result.

    I do pass 2 schools on my way to the office and notice armed guards escorting students from the car to the building. Its good to see.

    Can you think of any solutions?
     
  24. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,066
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It was a fad associated with rock groups that did not think that they were girls
     
    CharisRose and Doofenshmirtz like this.
  25. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,610
    Likes Received:
    7,696
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He had no criminal or mental health history on record.

    He also passed a 4473 which is a FEDERAL level check buckaroo.
     

Share This Page