14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    You know, history :) I love history, it really show how, what and where cultures evolved from.. Think about it, America became a gun culture because of Europe!
     
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  2. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    .... And you still wonder why they always choose the gun.
     
  3. Buri

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    Would you be interested in a few links of people who were unarmed and slaughtered in various parts of europe? Also, we can add the police response times. Of course, you do not have ANYTHING like the cutlure here in the US so you trying to compare is pretty comical.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

    Here, get your feet wet and get back to us.
     
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apparently, so does Mr. Lee Greenwood, author of the unlistenable MAGA anthem "God Bless the USA"

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/even-lee-frickin-greenwood-canceling-100838022.html

    He's still a shitbag for originally agreeing to appear at today's pro-murder conference in the first place, but tiny little kudos for pulling out under the circumstances...

    I assume Larry Gatlin is a member of the Gatlin Brothers, but maybe the country music set will comprehend this logical statement

    SNIP
    country singers Larry Stewart and Larry Gatlin back out after the shooting, with Gatlin going so far as to criticize the NRA for not supporting background checks. “I’m a Second Amendment guy,” Gatlin told USA Today, “But the Second Amendment should not apply to everyone. It’s that simple.”
    ENDSNIP

    Dang, that may actually make my PF.com signature someday...
     
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  5. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. I would never claim that not getting a gun precludes mass murder. But getting one makes it easier.
     
  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    We disagree. Personally, I'd much rather face a knife than a gun.
     
  7. Richard Franks

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    Before Ramos killed those school Children and the two teachers, we all know he shot his grandmother in the face. I don't know if you can survive being shot in the face. I still don't know if she survived this. It remains to be seen.
     
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    Ok...
    So, what if "he can't get a gun..."?
     
  9. Jack Hays

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    Then a determined murderer will find another way.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The why isn't what's at question. You seem to think it's the only option they would choose.
     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Stopped by some 10 year old kids? Won't happen.
     
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    Hi, Navy Corpsman.

    These people have something in common: Mr. Marc Bernier, Mr. Bob Enyart, Mr. Philip Valentine, Mr. Jimmy DeYoung, Sr., and Mr. Dick Farrel.

    It is my fondest wish that you do not join this group.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.
     
  13. FatBack

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    If they already ignore laws about say oh I don't know murder....

    What on God's green earth makes you think that they will obey a plethora of new laws that will only affect those who already follow the law ?
     
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    We already have that here. 2500 convicts were proven innocent over the last 26 years. Most of the victims of kangaroo justice will never be able to prove their innocence.
    The NRA is a "back the blue" organization. I doubt that it will help reform the criminal justice system, but it might help you keep the right to defend yourself.
     
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  15. Arkanis

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    Not only do I think so, I can also prove it.

    How many mass killings have been committed with anything other than a gun in the last 40 years?

    Now, compare the result with those involving a gun....
     
  16. Buri

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    since all you’re posting is rants with no logic I’m now fascinated with how fussy you’ll be knowing there are over 400 millions guns in this country and there is not one thing you can do about it.

    you’re just making people like their guns more, and less likely to be fooled by your fantasies about guns in general.
     
  17. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Why the past 40 years? Why not the past 500 years? Why not the past 117 years?
     
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    You're an adult. A 10 year old kid's perspective is completely different. You're expecting a 10 year old to have the same experience that an adult has. That's completely irrational.
     
  19. Jack Hays

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    You can argue your side; you're not allowed to argue mine. I'm not expecting anything except anyone's chances are better against a knife than a gun.
     
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  20. Buri

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    wow, I’ve faced both and I’d rather face the gun, there’s a pretty scar on my right thigh as a reminder.
     
  21. Jack Hays

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    Your call, not mine.
     
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    How many children 10 and under can an adult male sociopath kill if the police protect him from any interference for over an hour?

    OTOH, you had better not buy a baseball bat, knife or even a hammer for self defense in the UK.

    “The United Kingdom's counter-terrorism policing unit would like you to let them know if you see somebody doing something suspicious. Like buying a hammer.

    No, that's it. Buying a hammer is suspicious and is potentially an indicator of criminal activity. That's literally the point of the ad below. Here's a tweet that's getting the U.K. Counter Terrorism Policing office some good mocking on Twitter:

    Look again …it could save lives.

    If you see something suspicious, like someone buying knives, hammers and other objects that could be used to cause harm - ACT.”
    REASON, Buying a Hammer? The U.K. Worries That Might Make You a Terrorist, By Scott Shackford, 1/30/2019.
    https://reason.com/2019/01/30/buying-a-hammer-the-uk-worries-that-migh/
     
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    I can think of one right off the top of my head.

    The grave ill effects just takes place over the months and years to come.
     
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  24. jcarlilesiu

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    How about addressing things like the support of single parent households and having babies out of wedlock which is prevalent in our society, our media, and even within the Democratic Party.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...cratic-voters-biden-harris-column/3629110001/

    As backwards as it seems, the Democrats SUPPORT the concept of single parent households even though nearly every study shows that they are less positive for children then both parents being in the home.

    But like usual, the Democrats see this is an opportunity to support and even run in and save single parents to get votes. And in return, they enact more programs to support the idea, and like always when things are incentivized you get more of it.

    So no, it isn't about "stopping divorce proceedings" but it IS about evaluating why single parenting is becoming more and more common, and like always the left is incapable of seeing that their policies and platforms are largely responsible.
     
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    Are you angling for limiting the 2nd amendment based on race?

    https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/the-futility-of-race-naming-mass-shooters/
     
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