GOP leader Kevin McCarthy challenges legitimacy of Jan. 6 panel, subpoena to him

what he says under oath matter, if he chooses to take the fifth, we know why

 

I don't think purges have to follow the House Rules. Most if not all purges set their own rules.

 

Not to mention that as minority leader it is his right to appoint a ranking member and select the minority party’s members of the congressional standing committee. Rights he was denied. Why should he confer any legitimacy to this committee or its actions or it’s findings at all? He should not. He should work to destroy the committees, it’s credibility, and make certain that any findings it comes up with is seen only in a partisan light automatically to be sssumed a lie by half the country because of how Pelosi set it up.

 

Not in Biden's America, those concepts are forgotten lore in history. I hope McCarthy's action succeeds and Pelosi's farce is finally shut down so the House can return to being a part of the legislative chamber.

 

No we don't. YOU may ASSume why. But we won't know why. But thanks for confirming what I said in post 16.

 

Non sequitur reach, you are simply wrong but it's understandable. The nationalist Christian far right evangelical have scared their followers and want women back under their male control. Too late, ship has sailed but hey, let's see if we can mix church and state.

The truth can be hurtful when it's dead on target.

 

Noticed that you stopped with the "fetus is not a child" bit. And are back to the idiocy that one has to be religious to oppose abortion. Tell me, did I ONCE mention religion in my OP about being pro-life now? Nope. And you won't because being pro-life =/= Christian (or any other religion)

How can it be "truth" when you obviously don't even know the definition of misogyny?

 

A fetus is not a child, period, end of story.
The far right nationalist evangelical has been perverted so they can be even more easily fleeced by their false prophets.
I know misogyny when it rears it's ugly head. Women would be fools to let wannabes control them again.

 

So you're going to double down despite the definition being shown to you from two different sources? You do know that reality doesn't care about your beliefs right?

Ok? Not sure what this has to do with what I said. :shrug:

Wait...wannabes? So misogynists want to be women? You REALLY don't know the definition of misogynist do you? Also, you have already proven that what you "know" does not coincide with reality by the fact that you continue to assert that a fetus is not a child despite having the definition linked from two different sources to you.

 

Yes, the truth sadly can be hurtful for the waining desperate RW evangelical, highly fleeceable, misogynist. They are losing relevance in the age of liberated women. It must be very scary.
Kevin has little choice but to contort to this base heading for extinction.

 

You keep talking with inanities if you wish. Doesn't change the fact that you refuse to accept reality.

 

There is no connection between the secular progressive left and the truth.

 

Reflective post lost in the past.

 

This post warps reality. Trump cult members would be proud.

 

FYI, dictionaries are not a scientific source for identifying prenatal development.

This issue is not about life, it is what religions people refer to as a soul. Life does not start at conception, it is continuous, both the egg and the sperm are alive.

 

He's not compelled to submit to the demands of an illegitimate panel.

 

like I said, he can tell the truth in front of Congress or take the 5th, if he chooses to take the 5th, we know why

 

Yet neither can live for long at all or become human without combining with the other. The beginning of life in any creature including human beings is scientifically known,

 

So if anyone pleads the 5th in a court of law we are to presume why that they did so? Presumption of guilt, right?

 

You aren't following the discussion again. The subpoena is invalid and unlawful. This increasingly desperate panel has gone rogue. This is an "unprecedented break with House tradition", never has "a sitting member of Congress been subpoenaed."

Even top Republican Jim Jordan publicly rejected the subpoena, a “political vendetta” "that is in contravention of standing House rules.'

No One in this nation of Free People is ever duty bound to follow an unlawful and/or invalid request. Never. Legitimacy is the coin of the land among a Free People and in the face of an attempted illegitimate exercise of unjust power we proudly, as Free Americans, lift our middle fingers to the faces of wanna be tyrants.

It is with the heaviest of hearts that they must rebuke and refuse this rogue Committee's attempted illegal or invalid "use of Congress’ subpoena power.'

“In fact,” they continued sadly, “the Select Committee is not even operating in compliance with the rules its own members voted to put in place.”

​

His voice rising to a softly thundering note of gentle firmness, "he noted that the resolution authorizing the creation of the panel allowed the minority party to have five seats, selected by the minority leader."

“Speaker Pelosi violated 232 years of continuous precedent by refusing to allow the minority party to select its representation on the committee."

“It has since engaged in a series of actions that further distance it from its authorizing resolution in violation of the House Rules and precedents. At no time in the history of the House has the majority denied the minority the right to select its representation nor constituted a Congressional committee in violation of the Rules of the House. And at no time in the history of the House has the majority failed to honor the House’s deposition and subpoena authority."

The rogue soon to disappear majority seeing that the voters are poised to strip them of their privilege have become increasingly more depostic by the day.

“The principle that a Congressional committee must adhere to its applicable rules in pursuit of the enforcement of its subpoenas has resulted in convictions for contempt of Congress being overturned."

“In Yellin v. United States, the Supreme Court reversed a conviction for contempt of Congress when it determined that the Congressional committee failed to adhere to its own rules regarding procuring witness testimony: ‘The committee prepared the groundwork for prosecution in Yellin’s case meticulously. It is not too exacting to require that the Committee be equally meticulous in obeying its own rules.’'

Hear! Hear!

“How then does the Select Committee justify its investigation considering Speaker Pelosi’s failure to compose the Select Committee within the confines of H.Res. 503?” “Why has the Select Committee engaged in the deprivation of minority rights to such an unprecedented nature and failed to follow the House Deposition Regulations?”

Deprivations of minority rights will never be tolerated by the GOP.

"Reps. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), the only Republicans on the commission—both of whom were appointed by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)—said that the committee existed to tell the story of what happened on January 6, 2021."

SCOTUS has already determined that "telling stories" is not a legitimate legislative purpose. This might come as shock, but, let's hope it shocks these deprivatizers back into their senses, but the purpose of the LEGISLATIVE branch is to LEGISLATE, not "tell stories". Liz and Adam really plowed the pooch when they shot off their mouths with that one.

“The Supreme Court has made clear that exposure for purposes of telling a story is not a valid legislative purpose, and not a valid use of the subpoena authority granted to Congress under the Constitution.” “If those objectives qualified as valid legislative purpose, then Congress’s subpoena power would be limitless.”

Perish the thought, LIMITED power is the hallmark of Legitimate Power in our Constitutional Liberal Democracy.

“In this instance, it is clear from your correspondence that the Select Committee has exceeded its constitutional constraints to exercise its power of inquiry as decreed by our Founding Fathers as further defined by the Supreme Court, and as assigned to you by H.Res. 503.”

“In light of the above-described deficiencies, it is unclear how the Select Committee believes it is operating within the bounds of law or even within the confines of the authorizing resolution.”

This panel and this majority have brains that are seriously rotted with desperate obsession.

The Jan. 6 panel has operated solely as a partisan witch hunt "exclusively targeting Republicans and other allies of former President Donald Trump—including one who wasn’t even in the White House on Jan. 6, 2021!"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/not-v...na-in-lengthy-letter_4496838.html?slsuccess=1

If this rogue panel wants to try to enforce their illegal subpoenas, they better start searching for a Courtroom and prepare to litigate it.

 

the subpoena is valid, he just doesn't want to have to tell the truth to the public if he takes the 5th - it's his choice

 

Neither can a fetus.

 

DEMS ARE ABUSING THEIR MAJORITY IN A DANGEROUSLY DIVISIVE AND UNAMERICAN WAY: Leader McCarthy and Rep. Jim Jordan Address Subpoena from Jan. 6 Select Committee in Blistering Op-Ed.

“As the op-ed expressed concerns over, at issue is not just legitimacy but constitutional rights, not helped by the shadowy manner in which the select committee is conducting its affairs.”

The rogue out of control committee doctored text messages to try to frame other House members? These other House members are right to refuse this illegitimate committee's illicit subpoenas.

 

I'm not religious and am not basing anything on the concept of a soul.

And disregarding dictionaries is only done when it won't support ones position. It is an attempt to redefine a word in order to uphold a failed argument.

 

which are human