What other countries do differently than the US to stop mass shootings

Yeah, the import of iron technology led to one of the massive genocides in history when the Bantu conquered nearly 60% of Africa. But just in effect we see nothing amounted from their conquests besides their dominance ethnically. They still used bone/stone tools in large swaths of Africa.

 

You may point to one or two out of the thousands. None of them created a written language. They never left any monuments to their culture and people. They're not the same people end of the day. It's no different than comparing a Bulldog to a Husky and saying there is no differences.

 

You have no answer then.

 

Obviously, not an answer that you understand.

 

While beautiful, I really don't think that is an apt description of America. It is a gorgeous shot of one location. What represents all of America?

 

Which doesn't negate the fact that Australia has a vastly lowered mass shooting rate than us no matter how much you want it to.

 

I understand full well that you're not prepared to say where you would draw the line in allowing people to have personal weaponry.

 

We don't live in a totalitarian society here, they do! If you need more proof bone up on how a blind eye was used to practically eradicate the Indigenous of Australia.

They were relieved of their fire ONLY when whites were massacred

 

I don't see a problem where it is right now.
Semi auto pistols and rifles are fine. No explosives, grenades, rockets, or weapons of mass destruction.

 

So this is where you limit things?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/most-deadly-gun-planet-earth-26736

 

That looks pretty cool. I'll have to get one. Thanks

 

Cool?
It looks vile to me.
Do you think it has the kind of cool look that a school shooter would go for?

 

Not really. Its more of a novelty gun. You couldn't aim it and hit much. Reloading it would be a nightmare under pressure. I don't even know if its real. It would be a very hard sell to any real gun enthusiast. More of a talking piece

 

Let me repeat. Treaty Of Versailles, not the Nazis, imposed strict gun laws on German citizens. Nazis un-did many of those restrictions, and enacted a nationwide program called "Hitler Jugend" to teach kids how to shoot and handle firearms. Of course it had nothing to do with gun rights, but that it what happened anyway.

I suggest YOU do that.

 

Ah, the "Treaty Of Versailles" again...? The thrust of the treaty was to disarm the entire Imperial German Army and Navy, but you know that. But, if, in your opinion, the Treaty of Versailles disarmed the entire private-civilian population of Germany, where did all those weapons that were used in street battles and other civil insurrection primarily between "Brown Shirts" and German Communists come from...? . Plus, if there were no 'unauthorized' weapons left in Germany by the time that Hitler took over, what was it that the Nazis needed to forbid Germans to possess...?

And do you not see that essentially the same thing would happen over here if anti-constitutional Leftists got their way and the entire private-civilian population of the United States were forbidden to have weapons of self-protection? "Criminals and Crazies" would still be able to get weapons and ammunition, Pro... the Germans taught us that much over 90 years ago!

.. Ooh, are those civilians...?

 

The Treaty, not the Nazis, imposed strict gun control on Germans. Your argument was that the Nazis did it, and that is simply not true, and now you are moving the goal posts by asking "where did the guns come from". The Treaty set the law, - it didnt make every single firearm disappear.

They didn't forbid it, they did the opposite. They put a rifle in peoples hands and taught them how to use them. The claim "the first thing Nazis did was ban guns" is a NRA propaganda, which you believe without questioning. I was an NRA member, so I know they lie, - A LOT.

So, it was the Treaty Of Versailles which banned guns.

And Nazis de-regulated gun ownership

You've been played.

The "left" is not asking for that. More NRA bullcrap which you have swallowed.

 

Slam dunk !!!!

 

@Pro_Line_FL
@FoxHastings

Rather than go on arguing with both you (quite the formidable 'tag-team' ), I'll ask you both what YOUR solutions are to the problems involved in creatures like Salvador Ramos getting, and using, weapons to murder people...? Neither of you likes, approves of, or even acknowledges any credibility in anything I have had to say, so, please, ENLIGHTEN US! If you were the absolute ruler of the United States of America, what would you actually do?

I've had conversations like this with a like-minded colleague of yours, a very intelligent, very passionate poster named @Derideo_Te . Interestingly, we agreed on the desirability of denying possession of all firearms to any "Criminals and Crazies". So... what say you?

 

Well... it sure got QUIET here for about the last three hours.... Don't you liberal Leftists have any 'tutelage' about your desired idea of 'gun control' for the rest of us, the 'unwashed, inferior mobs of knuckle-dragging believers in the Constitution-as-written-and-amended'...?

Oh, @Pro_Line_FL , I noticed that you never did respond to the information I provided in a link in an earlier post of mine in this thread. Perhaps you didn't trust a source like National Review? Maybe you'll find this one more to your overall historical sense: https://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=2287

At any rate, if you're going to continue to hold forth on things like the Treaty of Versailles, the Weimar Republic's gun registration (because even after Versailles, Germans DID have weapons, as I've already said and shown), or what the Nazis did about gun ownership throughout the entire Third Reich, please at least display the, uh, scholarship to provide a link or two yourself, OK?

Oh, just so that we're clear, if I dared to tell both of you what I think should be done to "Criminals and Crazies" who violate ANY laws whatsoever concerning firearms, or commit any offenses with firearms, I'd almost certainly be BANNED from the Forum for at least a month -- precisely because I would take a zero-tolerance, no-bullshit approach to the 'matter', and ALL offenders would pray for death before having to endure the kind of punishment that I would inflict on them.... Some much, then, for me 'approving' of the murder of children in a school by one of these creatures!

 

The 2nd amendment is unequivocal. You would need to either amend the constitution or pack the court with partisans.

 

Somewhere in Canada there is a bridge missing the mythological toll taker that lives underneath of it.

 

True. Making schools into fortresses is not the final answer. The final answer is taking sociopathic young people out of society and providing them psychiatric care.

 

Keeping Trump as president for a second term would

As I said. Put more people in prison.

 

You have more people in prison than just about any other industrialised nation so that is not working either

BTW what are you putting them in prison for oh! Great Genie of the magical answers! / sarcasm

 

Soooo, why has that not been done? Greg Abbott actually cut funding to mental health and I bet he is not the only Republican to do so