What crimes did Trump commit? How nice of you to ask

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If someone asks about 'what crimes' in any of the other threads, just refer them to this one, this is this thread's link:

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...d-trump-commit-how-nice-of-you-to-ask.600514/


    In Georgia:

    Depriving Georgia residents a fair and impartially conducted election process by pressuring the Georgia Secretary of State to falsify or overturn election results

    Depriving state residents a fair and impartial election process 52 U.S.C. § 20511(2)(B)

    In General, leading up to and on 1/6

    Conspiring with others to interfere with governmental functions--namely, the certification of the results of the 2020 presidential election and the constitutional transfer of power

    Conspiracy to defraud 18 U.S.C. § 371

    Attempting to obstruct and/or obstructing for a time Congress's certification of the 2020 presidential election

    Obstruction of an Official Proceeding 18 U.S.C. § 1512

    Conspiring to prevent, hinder, or delay by force Congress's final counting of the 2020 electoral college votes as part of a scheme to overthrow the government of the United States

    Seditious conspiracy 18 U.S.C.§ 2384

    Conspiring with others to prevent Mike Pence from discharging his duties as vice president to count the votes and certify the winner of the election on January 6

    Conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging any duties 18 U.S.C. § 372

    Attempting to weaponize the Department of Justice in service of their larger campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

    Coercion of political activity 18 U.S.C. § 610
    Interference in Election by Employees of Federal or State Governments 18 U.S.C. § 595

    To name a few, and there are many others committed during his campaign and during his presidency:

    https://www.citizensforethics.org/r...ecord-of-uncharged-criminal-misconduct/#table

    Lock him up!

    Also, if you want to argue that we can find code violations by all presidents of one kind or another, I will concede that point, but I think the salient point here is the abundance of crimes, and particularly the severity of them insofar as the crimes against democracy in Trump's last year in office, up to and on 1/6, that puts him way way way ahead of the pack.
     
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    and that is just the start

    i like him for felony murder in the ashly babbit martyrdom and the officer sicknick cop killing

    down to and including accessory to littering.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, not to mention felony murder. I mentioned that in a post several months ago, thanks for the reminder.
     
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    Check out the link I provided, there are some 48 listed on the chart at the bottom of the page.

    Dereliction would fall under impeachment offences, methinks, i.e., abuse of power, which is not a criminal violation, as I understand it.
     
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    You forgot the 10 or so counts of obstruction of justice from the Mueller Report.
     
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    And, sadly there are more done while in the Oval. Likely daily.
     
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    It has been said only about 4 of them are slam dunks, but they are linked to in the table given at the bottom of the OP.
     
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    Yes. Abusing your authority as "presuhdint" while self-dealing, being incompetent (not technically a crime, but he sure is a dullard!), obstructing justice, smooching Putin's anus, violating campaign finance laws, inciting insurrection, etc. is sure hilarious! HAWHAWHAW!
     
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    You didn't read the Mueller Report, so why comment?
     
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    Treason sounds good to me.
     
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    Biden has indeed committed multiple instances of that crime.
     
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    That report was a joke on the left. No collusion and no obstruction of justice. Hillary manufactured the whole thing
     
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    In my country, people aren't guilty of crimes until they are convicted by a jury. Post evidence of the indictments and convictions you are claiming to have been executed.
     
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    Our country and theirs are not at all the same one, sadly. The values we hold dear they hold in sheer and utter contempt.
     
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    Having been nurtured by a radical agitator with deep ties to Kenya, it's understandable.
     
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    Now if you only had something wasn't a fifty-fifty mix of bullshit and wishful thinking...
     
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    *LOL*

    Only someone who hasn't read or, or listened to someone who has read it, would come up with that utter ****.

    Really, read it. Be a real American, and read it. And if you can't be bothered to inform yourself, don't comment about it. Embarrassing.
     
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    I hold being well-informed in high regard. You?

    I don't value treason. I don't value making **** up. I don't value rigid adherence to what one incompetent orange criminal says.
     
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    Some posters have asked the question, 'what crimes', and the OP is the answer to that question.

    Obviously, the crimes are alleged, but most of them were not done in secret, they were done out in the open, hence the confidence factor in their being listed
     
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    Mueller had no ties to Hillary.

    The Mueller report was initiated by a Trump appointee, not to mention Mueller was a Republican, and a substantial portion of his prosecutors were republicans.

    The report is fully annotated and documented. 10 cases of Obstruction of Justice, as they apply to the facts and to the law.
     
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    All alleged in a house investigation which did not explore the possibility that he was not guilty.
     
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    In other words, you have nothing. The reason Pelosi and Schumer refused 20,000 National Guardsmen Trump offered days b4 the rally was to invite violence. Their rejection came after the Capitol Police acknowledged the need for troops. It was the same reason Democrat mayors and governors defunded police in 2020 ,,, to invite violence and create chaos. Pelosi and Schumer succeeded.
    The reason Pelosi has withheld videos inside the Capitol is because it would show people on the inside opening the doors and inviting protesters in.
     
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    What values would those be?

    These?

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim Staff Report FINAL.pdf

    These?

    https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive

    Or perhaps the fact that Trump installed family members on staff, whereby Kuschner received $500,000,000 from QATAR to bailout out a bad real estate deal, and he received $2,000,000,000 from the House of Saud on a dubious investment scheme ( their words, not mine), whereby Ivanka secured millions of dollars worth of Trademarks from China during the time span her father was negotiating with China,

    Or perhaps the kind of values that would allow Trump's toddler nephew, who had cerebral palsy, to be kicked off the family health care plan because of Trump's greed?

    Or perhaps the kind of values that would allow the suppression of the fact that Trump fornicated with a porn star just after his newly wed wife gave birth and he paid, a few years later just before the election, $130k to keep quiet about it, he didn't want the electorate to be able to make an informed choice as to his character?

    Or perhaps the kind a values that would elect a man who cheats on taxes, to the tune of $400 million, or defrauds insurance companies and banks?

    Or the kind of values who would elect a man who put a manager of a Russian bank who handled his real estate deals as secretary of commerce?

    Or the kind of values that would elect a man who has been accused by 25 women of sexual assault?

    Or the kind of values that would elect a man who would praise Putin for annexing Crimea from Ukraine?

    Or the kind of values that would elect a man who would shake down the Ukrainian President by illegally withholding congressional appropriated funds in order to get him to declare a phony investigation into his opponent, to give him an advantage in an election, an impeachable offense?

    Your values are very interesting, indeed.

    Of course we hold your values in contempt, as any right thinking democracy loving anti-fascist person would.
     
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