Psychological Projection

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

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    So you replaced drug addition with an addiction to god.
     
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    Its propaganda 101.

    "Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty."

    -equally attributable to Marx, Goebbels and Alinsky
     
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    To be precise somebody with super natural capabilities had to come up with the laws of physics, not the other way around.

    I don't equate my belief in a super natural God with religion. As George Burns, playing God in Oh God, said, "I don't like religion!"
     
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    Maybe. There isn't any evidence of it. It could have been a random occurrence. I don't think the universe is necessarily defined by structure and order. I view it as chaotic with some islands here and there that can support life and a lack of chaos. Those islands can be random. As I said, it is all a mystery.
     
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    I agree, but it is a matter of context. A universe undefined by structure and order is none the less controlled by very precise and exact physics. What is the chance of say the fine structure constant being what it is randomly? You could say the same for any number of physics constants and relationships and, by current scientific assessment, if just one or two or so would have been 1 part per million or so off we could not exist. This is the predominant reason I believe in a super natural God: there is no other rational explanation. You know the mysterious questions: what was before the big bang? Why did the universe go through a very short period of incredible expansion ("inflation") early on? Etc?
     
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    We don't know that it did. We just think it did. Science works to explain the observable. Yes I agree that the laws of physics are very real. I don't know why and neither does science in general. Also I don't say that an intelligent creator is impossible. I simply say that there is no evidence of one. It is a matter of faith and belief. We all have faiths and beliefs. Perfectly human.
     
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    I agree there is no proof of one but evidence? My "evidence" is default! I can't think of anything else that's better.
     
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    Are you going to give us an example of psychological projection, or were you just giving us an illustration of it?
     
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    I consider myself more spiritual, than religious.
     
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    Thinking religion is bullshit is not bigotry or intolerance.
     
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    RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!!! Well, if Democrats remember, Hillary Clinton, got caught colluding with the Russians, before Trump supposedly was.

    Why do you think she had a team of workers destroy so many documents, and destroy hard drives, and evidence?

    This is just 1 form of Psychological Projection that the Democrat Politicians in America did.
    Another one, is racism. One time, Bill Clinton, got caught saying to one of the Kennedy's, about Obama, that if it were just a couple of years back, he would have been serving them drinks.
     
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    I can relate to that. I think we can live in harmony, at peace with ourselves. Takes some introspection, and usually some re-ordering of our priorities. Worth it.
     
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    For someone who professes that love is the answer, you surely have displayed à strong exemption for all those who vote Democrat whom you have variously blamed for every problem you identify.
     
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    You seem to have forgotten that Trump took suitcases of files with him when he finally left the WH.
    And once suggested the USA stop seeing Russia as suspect and work more closely with Putin...at à time when he was building à hôtel in Moscow.
    And is proven to be a serial mysogynist happy to mix with Epstein.
    Sélective memory?
     
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    I concur. I've mentioned the same thing but I don't know that individuals this deep in their convictions are able to receive or perceive that and he will get likes from others that hold those same views which feels like validation so it just festers and grows. unfortunately.


    Cue the Hate Brigade....3,2,...

    /smdh
     
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    " I used to be all messed up on drugs, now I'm all messed up on Jesus." (some old comedy album)

    With all due respect this OP is just too incoherent to really reply to.
     
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    Would you say that you are a person filled with (your) god's love?

    If so, how so?

    What are some examples of that?
     
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    You are too funny, AU. Too funny.

    P.S. The Buy Bull has jacked up a lot of people.
     
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    Seriously, religious ecstasy should be an uplifting and enlightening experience, not a drug. Consider, the last and most vital of the 14 steps to becoming a Boddhisatva is called. " Entering the marketplace to enlighten the World"
     
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    I concur. I'm just not sure they even understand what that means.

    I'm a former Christian but one of the biggest "issues" the people in our Parish (I was baptized Catholic) had with me was I'm not bigoted. It never made sense to me that people could claim to be loving and caring and Christ-like but say and do some of the most hateful things to others. We are 5 generations Catholic in my family and I am the ONLY one that never looked down or judged my cousin because he was gay. He died of COVID last year and I will still the only one. It ticks me off actually because heterosexual people aren't really the pillars of "loving families" and "sanctity of marriage" so who are they to tell somebody else who they should love?

    And, the OP is deep, deep in it. He wrote a post about judging people by their character versus book smarts recently but every other post is about how much he hates Democrats. Maybe those double-standards are invisible to them. I'm still trying to figure out how the cops at the Capitol don't matter but the ones in Uvalde get apologists. I don't have selective memory or historical revisionism so none of that adds up for me just like this OP's position doesn't. Life is too short for all that <whatever the hell they think they are doing>.
     
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    These people are exactly like ISIS but with much less justification in their history. Their religion has no spirituality left in it anymore but is entirely about power and politics. A pity, because just about all of religion's very real benefits, the solace and comfort it offers to the sick and grieving, and particularly to the old who we all will be some day, is utterly lost to them
     
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    " GOD spoke to me. He told me I must free the people... "
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    If it "can't use religion to define what that is," what can it use?
     
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    So they are no worse off than the atheists.
     
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    The reason religion can't apply is that there are a multitude of them, and the support of them is not a universal value, nor it the concept of right and wrong he same in religions. There are however many universal values that all rational people should recognize and agree on as principles for society, government and law. Many of these are parallel to religious beliefs. Lots of flaws in religions, opportunities for abuse with that as the excuse or justification.

    Ask yourself how your would regulate yourself if government didn't exist and you lived in a remote and small community without outside input. What you would see as common rights and wrongs? Assuming you were a person of good intent, you would quickly conclude that acts which abuse others are wrongful. Nobody has to tell you that it is fair to treat others the way you would like to be treated. However- the variable in religions are wide, and have proven dangerous. More wars have developed over religious issues than any other cause.

    I have a kind of religion that is uncommon, and the higher power- the power that makes the rules of life- is mother nature. I live by three principal rules so simple I can write them on a business card. They answer every question, and they work every time unless I fail to respect them. Nature teaches these things, and class is open 24/7. All you have to do is tune in, pay attention.
     
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