The Corrupt American Democrat Party.

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    The Corrupt American Democrat Party.

    What is the Major Problem, with the American Democrat Politicians.

    It's that they Intentionally Cause Problems, and then act like they have solutions, when they have very little at all!
     
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    Just some examples are, saying that they could fix the healthcare system. Now Doctors have to bow down to the Democrat party and comply with whatever they say, or possibly be fired, and lose funding.

    Global Warming. Democrat Politicians have gotten caught doing several things to help speed up Global Warming.
    Cutting down forests is one of them.
     
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    Uh huh.
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    your doctor bows down to a political party? maybe you need another doctor.

    are you possibly referring to doctors relying on cdc and nih guidelines? why yes. otherwise they could well be quacks who should lose their licenses.

    forests are cut by private sector corporations for profit and jobs. appropriate government offices require that logging is done responsibly and sustainably.
     
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    Anybody can get a statistic chart from anywhere. But it doesn't mean that chart is honest, or accurate what so ever.

    In fact, most liberal Statistics are skewed. They do it intentionally, to make themselves look better.

    Just ask Hillary Clinton, and the Democrat Politicians and their media. lmao! Saying Trump has no chance in the Republican Primaries, and he'll get crushed. Then Trump rose to first, and your liberal statistics said he wouldn't stay there, and then he won the nomination. Then there was a huge gap between him and Hillary in their spread statistics. then that spread kept closing, and then he won the Presidency. lol.
     
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    "Just some examples are, saying that they could fix the healthcare system. Now Doctors have to bow down to the Democrat party and comply with whatever they say, or possibly be fired, and lose funding.
    Global Warming. Democrat Politicians have gotten caught doing several things to help speed up Global Warming.
    Cutting down forests is one of them."

    This was the first post in this thread. There are some of your "examples".
     
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    Squid.
     
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    in which case i have already laughed them off in post 5 above. my doctor does not "bow to the party." he does need to get approval from blue cross, a private sector for profit corporation before he touches me. it would be the same if you were on obamacare or a medicare advantage plan. all depend on a for profit corporation to approve the treatment = not the government and certainly not the party.

    when you are no longer profitable the approvals will slow down until finally the doctor tells your children "i'm sorry, there is nothing more that we can do."
     
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    One could consider the development of a fake dossier created to destroy the candidacy of Trump, conceived and paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC (Democratic National Committee) as evidence of corruption.
    Actually, evidence of a far greater crime. However the democrats never saw it that way- which tells us such things are widely acceptable to the democrats.

    There's a lot of corruption in politics by both sides, but most is at a lower level that has to do with political favors to contributors and lesser things. But each politician has a line, a limit they feel is too much, and each party has the same. However, that line appears to have changed to allow most anything for today's democratic party- and it's supporters. The dems are losing many, but the concept of scruples and honor for the party appears to be dead and buried.
     
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    What does this have to do with the OP?
     
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    The goals of the ACA, as originally constituted, were to slow healthcare expense inflation, expand coverage, and increase the number of insured people. It is impossible to do an accurate evaluation of it having achieved those goals due to the relentless sabotage engaged in by Repubs.

    Sabotage Watch: Tracking Efforts to Undermine the ACA
    https://www.cbpp.org/sabotage-watch-tracking-efforts-to-undermine-the-aca

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    Ten years ago this month, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was signed into law. Since then, the law has transformed the American health care system by expanding health coverage to 20 million Americans and saving thousands of lives. The ACA codified protections for people with preexisting conditions and eliminated patient cost sharing for high-value preventive services. And the law goes beyond coverage, requiring employers to provide breastfeeding mothers with breaks at work, making calorie counts more widely available in restaurants, and creating the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which helps the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and state agencies detect and respond to health threats such as COVID-19.

    Despite the undeniably positive impact that the ACA has had on the American people and health system, President Donald Trump and his allies have been on a mission to dismantle the law and reverse the gains made over the past decade—first through Congress and now through a lawsuit criticized by legal experts across the political spectrum. Even if the U.S. Supreme Court rules the ACA constitutional after it hears the California v. Texas health care repeal lawsuit this fall, President Trump’s administration cannot be trusted to put the health of the American people ahead of its political agenda. Trump’s administration hasn’t delivered on Trump’s commitment to “always protect patients with pre-existing conditions.”

    The consequences of ACA repeal would be dire:

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/10-ways-aca-improved-health-care-past-decade/
     
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    Translation: you have to believe what I say because everyone that disagrees with me lies.
     
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    Your comment does not mirror the history of the Democrat Party.

    I doubt that the James K. Polk administration will ever be outdone in terms of the outright lawlessness involved.
    And that includes the Clinton track record of mysterious deaths and such.

    The chart is laughable because we all know it reflects those who were charged with crimes. Not those who were corrupt and skated.

    The United Daughters of the Confederacy acted as the fundraising arm of the Democrat Party for decades and even helped fund the KKK in the process.

    I find it sad that Black historians can't bring themselves to admit that White Supremacy is singularly a Democrat Party political tool.

    But alas, propaganda works... So the Democrat Party of "whatever you can get away with" is still fooling the masses while fixing next to nothing.
     
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    A. DemocratIC.

    B. WTF are you talking about? What problems do you think they created? I mean it's not like they're running around spewing lies about elections they lost, or how the border is "wide open" or how Joe Biden did something that caused a baby formula shortage. or...
     
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    That's a factual chart based on real numbers.

    Unless you can show where it's wrong?
     
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    Both parties have sinned of course, certainly in different ways- but integrity and honesty have usually been window dressing.
    However I don't know of a time in history where the offensive conduct was done so openly, or denied and dodged so aggressively when exposed.
    It seems they are no longer ashamed to be caught- like small spoiled children caught in the act, they still deny, and they don't change.
    It is however to the point of being far more harmful to the nation than at any time in history, and that has to stop if the nation is to survive.
     
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    He is still struggling with the definition of identity politics.
    Dont confuse him with verified statistics.
     
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    Lincoln used the words 'can long survive' in his Gettysburg Address.

    I reject any notion that the mistakes of the Republican Party from time to time can be equated to the outright EVIL that has consistently been present within the ranks of the Democrat Party since the very inception of that party.
     
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    Explain please.
     
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    I think he’s just trying to distract from the criminals and seditious traitors in the repub party who have chosen to stick their heads up trump’s ass rather than do their duty as Americans.
     
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    Could be - I just see him as a new poster looking to stir things up. And I don't bother with that kind of 'discussion'. Everything posted is inflammatory and opinion based - never anything of substance to back up his view.
     
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    They're projecting again.
     
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    We tend to get that a lot here. A steady stream of them posting the same fabricated and factless talking points.
     
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    Will he definitely doesn't like fact based opposition...
     
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    Whoops. Looks like your little meme is bs, pretty much like everything else you post.

    Wikipedia has a list of American federal politicians convicted of crimes. This list is broken down first by administration, and then by branch of government.

    For the executive branch this list has:

    In addition to the Wikipedia list:

    Obama appointee William Mendoza

    Mendoza pleaded guilty to attempted voyeurism ... and was sentenced to ninety days incarceration (suspended), one year of supervised probation and a $100 dollar assessment for the Victims of Violent Crime Act.

    W. Bush appointee James Steven Griles

    Clinton appointee Henry Cisneros

    Clinton administration Agriculture Chief of Staff Ronald H. Blackley was convicted and sentenced to 27 month. The judge said this is the second highest position in the Department of Agriculture, but I don't see any evidence the he was a presidential appointee.

    Reagan appointee Thomas Demery

    Reagan appointee Philip D. Winn (later pardoned by Clinton)

    Reagan appointee Robert McFarlane

    Reagan appointee William Paul Thayer

    Reagan appointee Rita M. Lavelle

    If the entire executive branch is considered, there are multitude of other people that have been convicted.

    Conclusion

    The original source of the table actually lists the names of the people being included, with the exception of Nixon people, where only 19 of the supposed 76 people are listed.

    A double standard was used. For example Eric Holder and Anne Gorsuch Burford were both held to be in contempt of congress, but neither was prosecuted. The original source of the table doesn't mention Eric Holder at all, and falsely states that Anne Gorsuch Burford was convicted. It was stated that only appointees were being considered for Obama, but non-appointees were included for other presidents. The source falsely states that J. Lynn Helms was convicted, when in fact he merely signed a consent order agreeing not to, in the future, do a certain municipal bond activity, and insisting that his signature had been forged, and 3 years latter the forger was convicted of the forgery.

    Roughly, considering just political appointees + Spiro Agnew, for crimes while appointed, including people pardoned after conviction, the "convicted" column of the table should be:

    Obama (2)
    G.W.Bush (9)
    Clinton (3) [excluding Blackley]
    G. H. W. Bush (1)
    Reagan (9) [excluding Dean, Gaines and Cohen]
    Carter (0)
    Ford (0)
    Nixon
     

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