Why Was Trump's Presidency So Successful?

Muslims do - but why are we talking religion here? Was Trump a Christian?

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

 

with all the pardons trump almost didn't have time to give matt gaetz his well deserved medal of freedom.

 

I never have claimed that he was perfect or did everything right. I just gave my opinion on what made him successful, which were many and put other presidents to shame. To address your points (well, the logical ones) most of his national spending came from the unprecedented COVID pandemic and was as much caused by the draconian and ineffectual lock downs by Democrat state and local politicians, although he did spend a ton on his own. However, I think he overspent in general and don't view that as good or successful. He could not accomplish many things unilaterally. IIRC it was John McCain that put the nail in his health care package. At the same token he was able to kill much of the disastrous Obamacare stuff. Congress wouldn't go along with his infrastructure plan, so it too died. Although I did not personally like the spending that it called for.

 

He might still get his chance at the next molester and blow party over state lines.

 

Lmao! The dude was pure hate.

 

Well, isn't that the definition of evangelical 'born again'?

 

i can't find a news story, but gaetz got his medal of freedom (and his blanket pardon for all i know) in a "secret ceremony" just before trump's eviction.

biden has announced a list - oh, simone biles, megan rapinoe, and a few others that seemed deserving and perhaps inspirational. i wouldn't be surprised if trump gave one to himself (along with a self pardon)

 

only if jesus was the " pool boy "

King Herod: Jesus Christ Superstar - YouTube

 

This has been due to increasing demand caused by population increases as well as people seeking the “American dream” of home ownership.
Lumber harvesting and processing is also a fuel intensive industry. Also most of the old growth is gone. Cutting smaller trees generates less lumber (board feet) per acre.

 

Successful Presidents like Clinton and Reagan BUILT coalitions with Congress to get bills past - unsuccessful Presidents like Trump and maybe Biden, do
not. Coalitions take management and compromise.

 

A decent point. However Trump had 110% Democrat avid opposition and a ton of never Trump Republicans in congress -- tough row to hoe. Reagan had a little of Republican opposition and he got a coalition only because Tip O'Neill lied through his teeth and reneged. Clinton achieved his compromise only because Newt beat the living crap out of him.

 

But your premise is false. Trump was a complete failure.

The fact that he betrayed his oath of office to such a degree hitherto unseen in modern history is testament to that fact.

Issues of policy differences are a red herring.

 

Unadulterated balderdash

 

And who was it who fawned over Trump for 40 years giving him all his trophies including a Hollywood walk of fame star?
Oh yeah, Democrats.

 

In 1989, the movie "Back to the Future II" was released.

The future they visited was 2015. The Cubs had won World Series and Trump was President! How prophetic!!! Almost a direct hit on both counts.

But the thing is, it was supposed to be a joke. It was a future so ridiculous no one could imagine it was true. That is what Hollywood thought of the criminal trump.

Yes, trump was a caricature who had a Hollywood presence. But no one took him seriously. He was a joke until trump lovers turned him into a deity.

 

Hmmm, lets do the math

Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached HISTORICAL lows
Had the best economy in decades
Made the US energy independent for the first time in 4 decades
Had 410 historical stock market highs
Gas was about $1.80 a gallon
Had the lowest illegal crossings in decades
America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record

That was until Democrats decided that a virus with a 99% survival rate required the country to shut down its economy
Now what do we have

Highest inflation in history
Highest amount of illegal crossings in history
Highest gas prices in history
Lowest approval rate of a president in history
72% of Democrats claiming the country is moving in the wrong direction
Baby formula shortages
Lumber at 3 times the cost
Historical number of Businesses closed and out of business
10s of thousands of medical personnel out of the industry
The highest rate of police quitting their jobs in history
The highest rate of commercial pilots leaving their jobs in history
Highest rate of crime in decades

Yeah, I think I could use a mean tweet about now.

 

Thank you for making my point. Who was it that put Trump in their movies again?
Who was it fawning over Trump for over 40 years?
Who was it that gave Trump 5 honorary degrees?
The Humanitarian award
The Ellis Island award
Star of Hollywood walk of fame
Times person of the year

Then the day he stepped on the escalator to announce he was running as a Republican was labeled by the same ilk as a racist homophobic, womanizer?
The hypocrisy of your ilk has no bounds

 

"idioceacy" showef, among orger hallmarks of the trump era, a pro 'rassler' as president. here is a 'rassler' accepting his participation trophy in the 'rasslin' hall of fame.

 

Political theater.

Largely driven by one-sided and biased reporting.... about EVERYTHING Trump..

Following a global pandemic which shut down the economy largely by Democrat leadership.

Well then, you would just be cherry picking facts for confirmation bias.

- one of the longest peace times the US engaged in no new deployments

- household spending power through the roof

- lowest unemployment numbers

- low energy costs

This list goes on and on, not that I would expect you to care.

 

You deny he committed violations of his oath of office?

 

Of course. Like I deny the moon is made of green cheese. You cannot cite one action of Trump where he violated his oath of office (talking about real actual actions, not made up and imaginary actions). Have you even read the presidential oath??

 

Yes, and I'm wondering if you read it because Trump has committed blatant and serious violations of law and therefore blatant disrespect for the rule of law which are a violation of his oath of office.

The following is just scratching the surface there are two many violations of his oath of office which go way past the threshold of the claim asserting 'Trump as a lawful right to challenge the election" and into the criminal zone to even list in one comment, due to the 16k character limit.

Which begs the question: How can you deny the following below and compare your denial of those facts, detailed and documented in the report, and compare that to denying that the 'moon is made of green cheese'? It leads me to be gobsmacked of the magnitude of your cognitive dissonance on the question.

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim Staff Report FINAL.pdf

There are numerous violations of law in his scheme to overturn the 2020 election, but the two prominent ones are:

18 U.S.C. § 371—Conspiracy to defraud the United States,

And...

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees.

#1: Subverting the 2020 election
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

A. The Senate Judiciary Committee’s Investigation On January 22, 2021, the New York Times reported that Jeffrey Bossert Clark, the former Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) Civil Division, sought to involve DOJ in efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and plotted with then President Trump to oust Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, who reportedly refused Trump’s demands.1 On January 23, 2021, the Wall Street Journal reported that Trump had urged DOJ to file a lawsuit in the Supreme Court seeking to invalidate President Biden’s victory.2 These reports followed Trump’s months-long effort to undermine the results of the election, which culminated in the violent insurrection at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021.

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary immediately launched an investigation into Trump’s reported efforts to enlist DOJ in his election subversion scheme. On January 23, 2021, the Committee asked DOJ to produce documents related to these efforts. DOJ cooperated with the Committee’s request, producing several hundred pages of calendars, emails, and other documents in the ensuing months.

On May 20, 2021, following DOJ’s production of emails from former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to Rosen asking DOJ to investigate several debunked election fraud claims, the Committee asked the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) for additional Trump White House records related to Trump’s attempts to secure DOJ’s help in overturning the election results. The Committee’s request sought White House records between November 3, 2020 and the end of Trump’s presidency related to meetings and communications between and among White House and DOJ officials. NARA has not responded to date, and has represented to the Committee that the delay in transitioning electronic Trump records from the White House to NARA may prevent the Committee from obtaining a response for several more months.

In addition to obtaining and reviewing documents, the Committee interviewed key former DOJ personnel, including Rosen, former Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, and former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia Byung Jin (“BJay”) Pak. DOJ and the White House authorized these witnesses to testify about their internal communications without restriction, citing the Committee’s “compelling legislative interests … in understanding these extraordinary events: namely, the question whether former President Trump sought to cause the Department to use its law enforcement and litigation authorities to advance his personal political interests with respect to the results of the 2020 presidential election.”

The Committee also requested to interview Clark, whom DOJ authorized to testify on the same terms as the other former DOJ officials. DOJ authorized Clark’s appearance on July 26, 2021. More than two months after DOJ authorized him to testify without restriction, Clark still has not agreed to the Committee’s request that he sit for a voluntary interview.


B. Key Findings The Committee continues to investigate Trump’s efforts to involve DOJ in his election subversion scheme, including by pursuing Trump White House records that NARA has thus far been unable to produce and additional witness interviews as appropriate. Given the gravity of the misconduct the Committee has uncovered to date, however—and in the interest of making a public record of Trump’s efforts to compromise DOJ’s independence—the Committee is releasing this interim staff report. The report makes six primary findings.

FINDING 1: President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.
[.see report for more detail..]

FINDING 2: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asked Acting Attorney General Rosen to initiate election fraud investigations on multiple occasions, violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law enforcement matters.
[.see report for more detail..]

FINDING 3: After personally meeting with Trump, Jeffrey Bossert Clark pushed Rosen and Donoghue to assist Trump’s election subversion scheme—and told Rosen he would decline Trump’s potential offer to install him as Acting Attorney General if Rosen agreed to aid that scheme.
[.see report for more detail..]

FINDING 4: Trump allies with links to the “Stop the Steal” movement and the January 6 insurrection participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.
[.see report for more detail..]


FINDING 5: Trump forced the resignation of U.S. Attorney Byung Jin (“BJay”) Pak, whom he believed was not doing enough to address false claims of election fraud in Georgia. Trump then went outside the line of succession when naming an Acting U.S. Attorney, bypassing First Assistant U.S. Attorney Kurt Erskine and instead appointing Bobby Christine because he believed Christine would “do something” about his election fraud claims.
[.see report for more detail..]

FINDING 6: By pursuing false claims of election fraud before votes were certified, DOJ deviated from longstanding practice meant to avoid inserting DOJ itself as an issue in the election
[.see report for more detail..]

This is just from the interim Senate investigation, there are 10 examples of Obstruction Of Justice, with details, facts, and applicable law governing the conduct as reported in Volume !! of the Mueller Report.

And all the above is just scratching the surface, we haven't even begun to assess the violations of his oath of office which will be given in the forthcoming interim report by the jan 6 committee.

Obviously, this is a debate forum not a court of law, I'm not an attorney, but i'm relaying the findings of the committee which appear to describe, in my view, accurately, Trump's violation of his oath of office, which may prove, depending on the DOJ actions, to be criminal.

 

Great post but sadly they will not specifically address or likely read it. There is a good book out there called The Despot's Apprentice, it was written in 2017. It actually explains the Trump base and it's tragically stark.

 

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Successful?
He planned on 1 term and getting impeached 2x?
Planned on over throwing democracy? Although, that goal he failed on.

 

...Before COVID.