5 dead, 16 hospitalized in mass shooting at Highland Park 4th of July parade, shooter being sought

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe he'll go on a hunger strike? Could last decades.
     
  2. Hey Now

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    Struggling to deflect from a really dumb idea you earlier proposed by claim a cloak of knowledge. The cape won't help, your "idea" was pure dumb.
     
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  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You're the one that doesn't understand the meaning of the words you're using.

    Like I said, there wouldn't have been a crossfire, of any definition in that scenario.
     
  4. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Keep digging then, you idea was pure dumb.
     
  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    My idea would have saved lives.

    The possibility of a counterattack would save lives, because these bastards never attack targets that can fight back.

    Keep believing that doing nothing is a solution and watch the bodies pile up.
     
  6. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahahahaha! Yep, armchair qtrbacking, still waiting for the capable vs responsible response in the other thread. Dig away!
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Tell us how you confused crossfire with enfilade fire...lol
     
  8. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    You're talking to a poster who thinks that 70 year old gun carrying pensioners out shopping are able to work together in a coordinated army style tactical defense maneuver to take out shooters without any practice
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The facts of this situation:


    1. This kid used an FX-05 Xiuhcoatl with 30 round clips. This is NOT an 'AR-15 like' rifle by any stretch of the imagination. It is an auto load which means it is an illegally purchased weapon.

    2. This weapon is a street drop. It was carried by a cartel member to guard a drug shipment into the Chicago metro area and then sold off once the delivery was finalized.

    3.These weapons are usually sold pretty cheap along with the ammunition and any extra clips. The kid shot off all the rounds he had purchased.

    4. This kid of Italian ancestry has a tattoo of the Italian Socialist movement on his neck. He had contact with the organization in Italy.

    5. Posted pictures showing this kid using the Italian Socialist fist pump.

    6. This kid had hair coloring of the colors of the Italian flag while symbolicaly carrying his weapon in a red blanket.

    7. The "47" tattoo refers to the historical Italian 47th Socialist Congress

    8. This kid was also looking at Synagoges as a possible targets. Highland Park is a Jewish enclave.


    Bottom Line: This situation meets almost all of the criteria to be called an "Act of International Terrorism."

    Instead of bringing attention to the 3,800 illegal firearms, on average, that cross the border each month, along with plenty of dangerous drugs, the political junkies are once again crying about the wrong issue.



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  10. Ddyad

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    I asked you: "A rifle that fires .223 is a "high powered rifle"?" I have heard one report that it was an AR15

    "Calibers[edit]
    Main article: List of AR platform cartridges § AR-15 cartridges
    The AR-15 is nominally chambered in .223 Remington or 5.56×45mm NATO, with the .223 Wylde chamber allowing for the safe chambering of both, but many variants have been produced in different calibers such as .22 LR, 7.62×39mm, 9×19mm Parabellum[56],6.5mm Grendel, and shotgun calibers.[57] Some of these firearms chambered in smaller calibers such as 9mm or .22 utilize simple blowback[58] or delayed blowback[59] operating principles instead of the default direct impingement/internal-piston based operating system, as insufficient gas pressure or volume is produced by the round to cycle the action, or the simpler blowback system is sufficient and may allow removal of the rear buffer tube and spring." Wiki
     
  11. Ddyad

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    The Inconvenient Truth:
    Law abiding people in all of America's DP ruled urban hell holes have been denied the right to carry concealed handguns for a very long time.
    Surely you know that.
     
  12. truth and justice

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    Why have you posted a list of fake news?
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you in denial about what is visibly obvious along with facts that have been acknowledged by the officials doing the investigation?

    For example, are you saying that the kid didn't case out other local Jewish targets? Or that the kid was not obsessed with the Italian Socialist movement?
     
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  14. truth and justice

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    Post links to those statements you say are acknowledged by officials,
     
  15. Nemesis

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    A bunch of armed civilians at a 4th of July parade. What could go wrong?
     
  16. Nemesis

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    Wait a minute. If that's true, maybe those morons attacking the Capitol on 1/6 really were Antifa.
     
  17. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    How did things turn at the Highland Park parade?

    You still haven't figured out that bad guys don't give a **** about gun laws?

    But, hey! The body count is good for your agenda. Huh?
     
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    So, you claim, without facts, logic or reason, that things would turn out great if more people went around packing at public celebrations/events?
     
  19. Golem

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    You are challenged to SHOW a lie, and demonstrate that it's a lie. Or retract! If you do neither we will know you just need to be included in the list of posters that should not be taken seriously because they only come here to troll.
     
  20. Andrew Jackson

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    Another ridiculous angle...
    How so many of the RW Ran with a FAKE Instagram Post...

    The Instagram post includes a photo of Crimo and the caption, “Yes, I am a product of MK-ULTRA and I am a liberal.”

    As many observers noted, the image is timestamped, having reportedly been posted after police announced Crimo had been apprehended.

    So why is "MK Ultra" trending?

    A fake Insta post of Robert Crimo calling himself "a product of MK Ultra and a liberal" is going around, being used by the right as… proof he's a product of MK Ultra and a liberal.

    How do we know it's fake? Clearly timestamped "4 minutes ago."

    — Joe Katz (@joekatz45)July 5, 2022
    There are several other indicators that the post is fake. Most telling is that the MK-ULTRA program ended in the 1960s, decades before Crimo was born. Further, the CIA abandoned it upon concluding that it isn’t possible to control someone’s mind.

    While it’s unknown whether political ideology factored into his alleged crimes, Crimo’s other posts indicate that he isn’t a liberal, but a conservative supporter of former President Donald Trump. In one, he’s draped in a Trump flag; others show him at a Trump rally and awaiting Trump’s motorcade. In one of his songs, he reportedly references Ben Shapiro.

    https://www.dailydot.com/debug/conspiracy-theorists-highland-park-shooter-mk-ultra/
     
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    This particular homicidal killer is diabolical and fits the profile of a mass killer.
    It does not matter if he was "Q", a far right nut bar whose own family says they didn't know much about. They supposedly barely spoke to the loner who lived in his room, playing on his phone. Red flag!

    Nobody knew what he was up to... Of course, they could have examined his social media rants and fantasies about causing mass death and mayhem, put two and two together, but they didn't. Of course, the knew he owned guns and had a huge knife collection. Of course, they could have alerted the police about that, mentioning his previous threat to kill his entire family and commit suicide from two years ago, but they didn't. Another red flag!

    There were plenty of warnings, red flags that could have prevented this tragedy. He completely fit the profile of a mass killer, and all people can think is to blame it on his political beliefs. Who gives a ****? Which side do you really think would claim a homicidal maniac as their own? The fact remains, seven are dead, some are critically wounded, and all some people care about is if the shooter was a lib or a con in an attempt to score political points for their team.

    Get real. What this is really about is how the hell did someone like him stay under the radar and had four or five guns in his possession? The red flags were there and once again ignored.
     
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  22. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Well, we know that things didn't turn out good with everyone but the shooter being unarmed.
     
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  23. jcarlilesiu

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    When are we going to realize that these events are mental health issues at their core and start as a society to address mental health in a format that solves these problems?
     
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    It starts at home.
     
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    100%. And when family deems they can't properly address the insanity....

    We need to go back to insane assylums.
     
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