Pathologist Speaks Out About Covid Jab Effects

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  1. Navy Corpsman

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    Glad to hear that you're not totally fubar and only have your pride and a broken toe damaged.

    Motorcycle mishaps, or what some might call misadventures, can have grave consequences, but they're not the same as having the cretins in government playing Russian roulette with their fairy tale pandemic and ludicrous miracle cure that was miraculous whipped up in a NY minute.

    I do find the most amazing aspect of the whole "psychological operation" that we’ve been living through for the last two and half years is that none of it could have taken place without a large percentage of the population not only submitting to the absurd narrative, but also vehemently defending it and actively collaborating with it.

    It's this bizarre level of complete mind control (like the Jim Jones followers, but 10x10 = 100 times stronger) that Herr Himmler could have only dreamed of back in the day...LOL
     
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    My girlfriend took the shot because at the time she was not my girlfriend and I was living in the mother-in-law's apartment in the backyard and she was the caregiver of my landlord in the front house.

    He was over 70 and he was paralyzed completely from the armpits down and had been that way since he was 14 years old.

    And being the good liberal that he was he was completely terrified of the covid. So he got the shots and convinced her that she needed them too.

    And you know what's ironic as hell? September the 20th of last year he died of pneumonia.... And it had nothing to do with covid.

    Well to make a long story short it turned out for the best.....( I mean not for him but I digress again...)

    His wonderful daughters decided to sell the place just as quick as they could and even though my girlfriend was his caregiver for 10 years they threw her out like yesterday's newspaper.

    So finding both of ourself in the same boat with a modest income a friend of mine suggested that I should ask her to be my roommate.... Well that worked out and now we even share the same bed.

    She goes for her biopsy again on Friday this July the 8th
     
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    I think the con was blatant, in front of God and Everybody, 24/7 on the Boob Tube. Not subliminally. :)
     
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    Predictably, a crackpot fringe has its subservient disciples who parrot their ravings, but most rational folks understand that qualified epidemiologists and public health experts have a far superior grasp of reality.
     
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    Motorcycles???!!!!! You would not get me on one. I have a friend who is late 70's female and she's a biker girl and rides
    all over the creation. She's been very LUCKY..... She wanted me to get on her bike for a little ride and so I did and
    burned my leg on the pipe....that was it FOR ME.....Never Never again. I want protection when I'm out there riding
    in whatever......

    You were lucky.
     
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    :blankstare::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::omg::omg:

    Public health experts --- yea follow them to get your worst health.
     
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    So who do you follow instead of actual experts?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health
    Do you actually have any expertise in the area of Public Health to be able to form any kind of conclusion that Public Health contributes to “worst” health.

    Public Health does make a difference. It’s obvious.
     
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    You call the govt actual experts for our good health....you are lost dreamer. Govt could NOT care more or less about us and
    our health,,,,wake up.....

    I follow all who are NOT govt controlled and love love love Dr. Google and all Google's
    experts.....and it goes beyond that as I've been working on my OWN health long before
    Google.

    Follow govt and go down the tubes....

    There is a woman in our LA health dept all govt job and she pulls in $500K in salary, I've heard and she is so fake fake fake with all her loud info that is
    leading people down the govt health B.S.
     
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    ~ Notice that the people who remain paranoid of Covid have been vaccinated. Why should they be scared if they are vaccinated ?
    The hypocrisy and tunnel vision is mind numbing ... :no:'
     
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    Yep Yep Yep amazing the fearful souls are jabbed to the 9's and more and masked
    to the 99's.....
     
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    ~ And they are the ones getting infected and contagious ... :blankstare:'
     
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    Appeal to authority fallacy. Anatomic pathologists spend their time diagnosing tumors and other things under the microscope. It's important - it's what I do, but it's not public health. Clinical pathologists manage blood banks, heme specimens, labs, and so it's a bit more relevant as they do need to understand statistics for quality assurance, but it's still not public health. Regardless of credentials, in science we deal with evidence and I need to see it. I was fully expecting a rise in cancer severity after the covid lockdowns because people went without preventive care while they were isolated and hospitals were trying to save covid patients. In terms of developing cancer, this process normally takes years, usually 10+ for solid cancers and as little as 2 years but usually 5-9 for leukemias. Basically, his claims start out incredibly dubious, and cannot be taken seriously without a compelling study.
     
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    While you've been sleeping during the last 2 years, the rest of us discovered that "qualified epidemiologists and public health experts" sold their souls to the Devil, whether Pharma, WEF or other nefarious organizations. Read RFK's book The Real Anthony Fauci and you will understand.
     
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    I've been eminently aware of the paranoia, and opted for reality.

    Ideological dogma is an incredibly poor substitute for scientific data, whether in epidemiology, climatology, or any other discipline.

    https://willbrownsberger.com/the-real-anthony-fauci/

     
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    I do my own reading and my own thinking, thanks just the same.

    The 'reality' you've opted for has been constructed by the world's finest propagandists. They would make Goebbels grow jealous. You're in good hands. :angel:
     
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    *LOL*

    It's called "careful". And we're much better off than the kooks who are afraid of a life-saving vaccination,
     
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    You sure don't sound like a scientist. How many studies have you had published?

    [​IMG]
     
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    What is hilarious is the cognitive dissonance of right wingers on this; out of one side of their mouths they say it's a fake disease with no real consequences and the vaccine is just a way to kill people n stuff, but then they are equally outraged that the left wing nutjobs won't condemn the Red Chinese for inventing and spreading it, but they totally ignore the extreme measures the Red Chinese, who remember invented it, continue to use drastic measures to curb it. So, why would the inventors be so concerned about it in their population if it were so innocuous, and of course it is already a police state so they aren't doing it just to oppress the already oppressed.

    So this tells me the right wingers are just shilling against their fellow wingnut jobs on the left, and don't really care how silly they look. It's all about Biden, i.e. BDS, which is just like TDS only it's blue, not red.
     
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    Paranoids read what fits their predisposition, and lash out at anyone who does not share their self-serving delusions. Demonization and vilification are characteristic of their aberration.
     
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    And wearing a mask is fearful because?

    I still see quite a few people out and about these days wearing masks in shops.

    I wonder how many of those who make negative statements related to fear and paranoia don't really have a grasp on Covid-19 infection/transmission.

    The virus that causes covid-19 is a mindless scrap of genetic material adapted by evolution to reproduce and spread as far and fast as it can. One virus particle is about 120 nanometres (billionths of a metre) across. You could fit 100 million viral particles on the head of a pin. You only need to breath in a few hundred viral particles to get infected.

    When somebody coughs or sneezes, the viruses travel in droplets of fluid. A single cough can contain up to 3,000 droplets, which travel from the mouth at almost 50mph releasing at least 200 million virus particles into the air. Being two metres or more away from the sneezing person, you will likely avoid the big droplets while they are in the air. However, the small droplets known as aerosols can remain in the air for up to 3 hours. A mask simply blocks the droplets and aerosols and I am not going to claim that masks block all the droplets/aerosols because they don't. A study has shown that there is a synergistic effect when both the virus receiver and virus spreader wear masks.

    Face coverings are primarily worn to protect others. They can also provide some protection to the wearer as noted above.

    The coronavirus isn't just like any flu virus. We have enzymes in our body that are the right size for the virus to lock onto them and bind tightly. The enzyme is ACE2 and these enzymes have a big role in controlling blood pressure and are numerous in our body including throat, lungs, eyes, and inside the nose. These enzymes, unfortunately, have made it soooo much easier for the SAR-CoV-2 virus to enter our cells.

    Once inside the cell, the RNA (genetic code) is released from the virus and cells machinery gets hijacked. It makes more copies of itself which get released into the body. Rapidly. Within a day the virus can multiply itself a million fold. You won't have any symptoms. The virus can actually hide from the body's defence system while it continues to multiply. The virus also tricks the body into thinking it's not a virus by covering its spikes with glycans or sugars which also enables it to evade the immune system. SARS-CoV-2 is a tricky little virus for just being a piece of mindless genetic code. During the first few days of infection, it's a race between the virus (producing millions of new viruses) and the body's ability to respond. In other words, if you have a strong healthy immune system, the virus is still able to multiply rapidly within the body cells for a few days.

    Because of the coronaviruses ability to silence the immune systems alarms it typically takes about 3-5 days to start showing symptoms and some people never do. So with no symptoms you are oblivious to the fact that you might be shedding a potentially lethal virus wherever you go. This is why mask wearing is important. If not vaccinated, the body can take a much longer time to mount a full response against the virus because the body has not developed any antibodies to the virus, which means you can shed the virus asymptomatically for quite a few days longer than vaccinated people.

    Are you actually criticizing people for being 'fearful' and labelling them as paranoid because they choose to protect others?

    Right now in the UK, about 1 in 20 people are infected. You can be infectious for 5 days or so even before symptoms show up. I would say it's respectful to think about those people who are extremely vulnerable to the virus -- those who are elderly, those who are younger with health conditions -- and actively want to protect them. I wear a mask when I go out just in case I might be one of those people who infect somebody vulnerable by accident. I know the chances of doing this is extremely miniscule but even one person is enough to be concerned about. It's also not about infecting the most vulnerable, it's about infecting anybody because that anybody can pass the virus on to other vulnerable people. It's not about the mask wearer being safe, it's about keeping the vulnerable safe and not to bother could be considered callous. Does it really hurt to wear a mask in a crowded place even if there is a small chance you might infect somebody?

    I think we are all aware that it's a very small percentage of people who will get severe covid and die but we are clueless, most of the time, to who those people are and if you are asymptomatically carrying the virus, you can more easily infect them if you aren't wearing a mask. It's as simple as that.

    I think a certain amount of fear is healthy when it comes to Covid-19. I don't think it's fair to paint people as overly fearful or paranoid if they choose to wear a mask. It shows me they are concerned. If people are fearful of catching the virus, they shouldn't be mocked. People are fearful of car accidents, so they wear seatbelts. People are fearful of STD's so wear condoms. Do we mock these people and call them fearful and paranoid? Maybe if some people stopped thinking about themselves so much and turned their actions onto trying to minimize illness in the community, the world would be a much better place.
     
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    Sheep Sheep Sheep you are all Sheep following the Head GOAT....

    Wear your sweaty uncomfortable Face Diaper, you've helped develop a major mask industry. Sounds like MANY of you have a new face attire to add to your wardrobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    On the mask world, I find it humorous, at my doc appt a couple weeks ago, I did NOT take a mask with me I don't
    own one, when I got there the staff was all masked up like robbers, during my initial check in they took BP and I got weighed and NO MASK, but then when it was time to go into the exam room with doc, I was asked "do you have a mask" I said NO, so they
    got me one....I guess the virus picks and chooses where it wants to land????!!!!:roll::roll::wink:
     
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    What goat? I follow what I know.

    Your ignorant selfishness is showing. You don’t really care about anybody do you? How very sad. At the end of the day your comments mean nothing.

    The face diaper has saved lives and for you to mock that is disgusting. I have never found a mask to be uncomfortable and you don’t get to comment on that because you just can’t be arsed to be a responsible human being.
     

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