Buttigieg: The More Painful The High Price Of Gas Becomes, The More Beneficial It Is To Have An.....

It's interesting that they seem to be trying to put more focus on electric cars than they are on how electric power is produced.

You would think, if they had limited resources, it would make more sense to try to focus on making electric power that people do use renewable rather than first focusing on electric cars.

What to explain this? Stupidity? Maybe just a feel-good policy that is not really grounded so well in logic?

 

~ I think anyone paying attention will realize that "Global warming " actually makes no sense and is a ploy to inact more totalitarian policies resulting in more dependence on Government.
Co2 is no threat to life. Windmills and solar panels are expensive, undependable and a ridiculous "solution " to a problem that does not exist.
If global climate " experts " were truly honest and not shills for a paycheck they would be willing to debate with skeptics and encourage nuclear power — not talking about imaginary catastrophes.

~ Yes indeed. Never does government discuss the dirty lithium mining, toxic battery disposal, pollution from electric vehicle production and Chinese slave labor used to produce solar panels.

 

He should have said that instead of leaving it open to interpretation. He was given a chance to clearify his answer but he didn't. That is called piss poor communication which this administration is guilty of.

 

Yup just send them a bunch of money and they will fix everything. Oh lord help us all from the looney environmental left.

 

That would almost be like him saying to his lover " The more pain to the butthole the quicker I'll start to get some relief".

 

It could be skewed by trucks, I haven’t dug that deep into the numbers. As to hybrid systems that is common — our Volvo would have increased by a similar price which is why we went with gas only. We use our EV for commuting and it does the job so no need to have two.

As for Pete’s numbers, they seemed very accurate while the congressmen peppered him with inane questions that they hadn’t even taken a few moment to look up. The poster board stunt at the other hearing shows how much of a political show this all is.

 

Our Tesla has 135k on it and the battery is still reading at 94% capacity. Have you ever been in an EV because they frequently get well over 100k

 

I went and checked out the VW ID4 and I asked the sales clerk what the anticipated degradation of the battery each year and her response was "the 84 kWh battery is anticipated for last 300,000 miles before serious degradation, however we do not have a long history with the battery system so this estimate is based on in house testing". Not a warm and fuzzy answer for a $50K vehicle that has a $14K maintenance hit at some point.

 

Well, your version doesn't give permission to use the cudgel once they get the daily vitriolic disinformation fix.

 

What does Pete have to do with Gary? It is 65 miles apart from South Bend.

Do you know why Gary is so bad?

 

Another wonderful affirmative action hire

 

If you drive less than 50 miles a day and spend nearly $50K for a Tesla, you either trying to fit in with leftists or just bad in math.

 

Biden administration wants to assign vehicles for American's to drive.

 

I caught a report about that story on the radio and this is just another factor that has been ignored, the used car value of an EV versus and ICE. And I haven't heard about disposal cost like if I by a new battery at Autozone I bring my old in but have to pay a disposal fee. What about disposal fees for EV batteries when you junk the car?

No quick fixes
Beside there being no thorough process to track EV batteries, there’s no system to coordinate their collection, post-car reuse or disposal once the warranty runs out, the report says.

“Without a mechanism to collect stranded batteries, they may be unsafely accumulated, illegally abandoned, or improperly managed domestically and abroad,” it says.

A key recommendation is assigning responsibility for making sure the batteries are reused, repurposed or recycled. That responsibility would fall to the battery supplier if the battery is still under warranty, the dismantler if the car has reached its end of life, or the vehicle manufacturer if the retired car does not go to a dismantler.

A proposal to make the vehicle manufacturer responsible for most, if not all, batteries at their end of life — including covering recycling costs — didn’t muster a majority vote, although the Legislature could consider taking up such a bill.

An environmental handling fee, to be collected at the time of vehicle purchase, was also rejected.

The host of other approved recommendations include labeling the batteries so that recyclers know exactly what’s inside, providing economic incentives to recyclers, and supporting the development of domestic battery manufacturing, as most are now made overseas.
https://www.ocregister.com/2022/01/27/what-happens-when-millions-of-electric-car-batteries-get-old/

We could be creating a huge environmental disaster as millions of such batteries suddenly have to be stored or recycled, always suffering losses in recycling, and the cost start coming due. Does that mean even more taxpayer subsidies? Or will those cost be born by those who drive the cars as it should be.

 

It’s been said many times that the mining, manufacturing and disposal of EV batteries is a environmental nightmare. Same with solar panels and windmill blades.

 

Thanks for the correction, I had a brain fart.

 

Cool anecdote but it remains an anecdote

 

Not interesting at all. They are becoming filthy rich from this move.

 

Do you know what a tax credit is?

 

To be fair, our Tesla is closing in on 150K. So you did just kind of spout BS.

 

What if the buyer doesn't want his/her/its great great grandchildren paying for it long after it ends up in a wrecking yard? Did we forget where they get the money to make things "cheaper"?

 

we don't they do

 

Speaking of spouting b*******.....

Why don't you tell us like so many EV owners how they don't require maintenance and repair?

Pretty funny how you lefties own Teslas.

 

Long story short. Mr. lives in an alternate universe will never be president. He's brought way too much damage onto himself by insisting that people who can barely make ends meet, (during the worst inflationary period in modern history), should be driving electric vehicles. He has no self-awareness at all.