I don't see any need this is probably that thing where you attack someone's typing mistakes to try and avoid the argument And they suck they're not green they're not good they're devastating to the environment nuclear energy is Superior in every possible imaginable way.
I honestly don't know what you were asking, or even if it was a question. If you can't be clear, how can anyone argue with you? Or is that the idea? You can rant and rave about what you think is a better energy source, but that wasn't part of the argument before this comment, so trying to tie that in as if I were arguing that point is disingenuous at best. My post was a direct rebuttal of your uninformed, knee-jerk claim about the output of wind turbines. If you want to debate nuclear plants, create a thread.
“Stopping subsidies” and “transitioning away” is not the same as “shutting it all down”. As you say, words have meaning and you are taking his words and ascribing a completely different meaning to them.
Well that didn’t address the question I asked at all. And told me very little that I didn’t know. Importantly, he accepts as a given that CO2 production is affecting the climate. He is talking about the best way to reduce carbon emissions. Do you accept, as he does, man made global warming?
He does accept it. He's likely wrong, which he also admits was the case for adoption of most technologies advocated by greenies. But evidently, you also missed that part. This is a question of propensity. At some point, it may also occur to him that what he's been working for his entire adult life was entirely unnecessary and wasteful. Perhaps that moment will be soon. Perhaps not. In any event, the presentation does clearly show the overwhelming waste of the green energy types, in context with my discussion earlier.
I have shown quite clearlybhe ran on shutting it down and that is reflectednin his policies. Younshow me.where he has supported the industry and going full bore to meet ALL of or energy needs at affordable prices.
There's few things more humorous than watching celebrity climate activists trying to explain their reasoning.
Read my sig is that just made up? Is this a fake video? You show me where he has supported the industry and going full bore to meet ALL of or energy needs at affordable prices.
Hydropower often comes under fire for its environmental impact, because dams disrupt ecosystems. In fact, California currently doesn’t count large hydropower plants in its renewable-power targets. But regardless of how it’s categorized, hydropower is a lower-emissions alternative to fossil fuels. https://www.technologyreview.com/20...power-heres-what-that-means-for-clean-energy/ The environfacists in California, for one. Scary, isn't it? Most leftists in the rest of the country are unaware of the liberal/progressive/socialist sickness that has infested the former Golden State. Yet many are, indeed, aware but continue to support these freaks. This is why us normal Americans despise leftists...
does California have Hydropower? https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/almanac/renewables_data/hydro/index_cms.php "n 2021, hydro-produced electricity used by California totaled nearly 14,566 gigawatt-hours (GWh),or 7.49 percent of California's in-state generation portfolio. A total of 274 hydroelectric facilities with an installed capacity of 14,042 megawatts (MW)." https://www.usbr.gov/mp/hydro.html "Today, Reclamation operates 53 hydroelectric power facilities that provide nearly 40 thousand megawatt hours of renewable energy to the West. Its Central Valley Project alone averages more than 4,600 GWh (4.6 Million MWh) with capacity of more than 2,100 MW"
Yes, California still has some hydropower dams in use. Liberals/progressives/socialists have torn down many, though, and the communists who run the state government are continuously seeking to eliminate the rest. This is why they don't count hydropower that comes from dams as renewable. Scary, isn't it? You were obviously unaware of this; share your thoughts. I'm truly interested in what those on the left think about this.
doesn't mean they are not renewables, Trump hates windmills, thinks the sound causes cancer, doesn't mean they are not renewables
You don't seem to understand; California does not count hydropower as a renewable source of energy. You are avoiding this fact, for some reason. Why? The leftist California legislature has passed laws determining what is considered renewable energy. Hydropower, according to the state, is not considered renewable energy. Do you understand this? I've given you a couple opportunities to respond, yet you shy away. Why? Thus, California has been seeking renewable energy in other states for about a decade now. Solar from Nevada, geothermal from Oregon and Washington, anything to meet their clean energy goals: "The legislation obliges California to meet 50 percent of its energy needs with clean power by 2025 and 60 percent by 2030 before ramping up to 100 percent by 2045." https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...mits-100-percent-clean-energy-2045-180970262/ Are you going to provide an original thought here, or are we simply going to hear from yet another uneducated leftist who tries to deflect their ignorance and lack of intellect by mentioning Trump? Seriously, don't waste my time here if you're going to come across as a lightweight who only hopes to vomit out unoriginal thoughts you've seen on a bumper sticker. Do you think hydropower should be considered renewable? I do. What do you think of California deeming this not to be so?
I posted a link showing they did count hydropower as a renewable energy "Are you going to provide an original thought here, or are we simply going to hear from yet another uneducated rightest who tries to deflect their ignorance and lack of intellect by defending Trump? " carry on
Not very often, look here, bro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer_oil The turbine bearings must also be lubricated. But we can't here really talk about "oil consumption" like in an combustion engine.
Trump has absolutely nothing to do with my thread here, which why I was disgusted when you brought him up. That would be like me saying Biden claimed he got cancer from licking his windshield. In my experience, liberals/progressives/socialists bringing up Trump out of the blue is a clear indicator that they have have lost the debate, have given up and simply want to take a shot on the way out. But you're still here, so we can proceed. So, actually, hydro power doesn't count according to the state of California: "It classifies solar, wind and geothermal as renewable but inexplicably excludes the most well-developed renewable energy of all: hydropower." https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/07/hydropower/ The link you provided cited the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, which is a federal agency. A common mistake, as most normal people, even some liberals, think California is off the rails in not considering hydropower as renewable. While federal agencies across the country consider hydro as renewable, California decided it isn't and didn't qualify, and the leftist environnazis here determined that dams are sinful and should be torn down. Sadly, these freaks have been successful, which has partially led to the concerns from farmers and others depending on a water source. I'm a native Californian and am well aware of what the liberals/progressives/socialists have done to my state. Again, your thoughts on this? Should hydro be considered renewable in California?
Excellent, thanks. One thing the wiki page didn't mention - unless I missed it - is how often the oil must be changed. Cars are every 5K miles, water turbines more often than that. But 2,100 gallons for each turbine, times the millions of turbines required for dependable energy, is still a shitload of oil, don't you think?
you were the first to bring up Trump, read your own post, you insulted others, and in no way wanted civil discussion I was quoting you, if was your quote... slightly modified your Quote : "Are you going to provide an original thought here, or are we simply going to hear from yet another uneducated leftist who tries to deflect their ignorance and lack of intellect by mentioning Trump?" my Quote : "Are you going to provide an original thought here, or are we simply going to hear from yet another uneducated rightest who tries to deflect their ignorance and lack of intellect by defending Trump? " http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/wind-turbines-use-oil.602202/page-4#post-1073624964 so now that your canned response was shot down, we can carry on
Ahhh no YOU did http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/wind-turbines-use-oil.602202/page-3#post-1073620868
Um, set aside the weed for a moment, take a couple breaths and try to not be a moron. You first mentioned Trump in post #71: "the real threat of Windmills Trump says is the sound.... that causes cancer, lol" You also added a couple videos. Feel free to point out where I mentioned Trump in any post prior to #71. Obviously, you're not going to be able to, so perhaps you can try to address the issue? You're really struggling here, my friend. You deflect more than a leftist trying to describe a woman. And if you consider me implying liberals/progressives/socialists as not being normal Americans an insult, sorry. But you guys are way out there most of the time by such nonsense as legislating that hydropower not being considered renewable. Please, try to defend this. But you can't. And you know you can't. And you're well aware that I've proven you can't, which is why you've been acting the troll. I've kinda given you a beat down here, and it looks like you're not going to try to discuss the main issue, which is why environfacists do not consider hydro as renewable. Last chance to attempt to do so...
