New poll: Majority of Americans oppose Supreme Court ruling on abortion

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    The SC seriously screwed up.

    Nobody will ever take them seriously again. They have sealed their fate.

    Just another nail in the coffin of the dead US
     
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    Just figuring that out now mate .. SC has been "Seriously screwed up" for many decades .. a kangaroo court of Political punditry.
     
  3. Kal'Stang

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    You made me think of...

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    ;)

    Anyways... All humans have unique DNA. Turds do not have its own unique DNA and is not alive.

    And human has both an adjective definition and a noun definition. For someone complaining about word usage you should know that.
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    You got it!


    I think a deep fear and hatred of women is usually behind it...
     
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    Sure they will :) I don't think you're considering the ramifications of what they do as SCJ ;)
     
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    Hyperbolic! Although in all my time on this rock, it's hardly the MEN that show animosity towards Women, but Women that show animosity towards each other, so better defined you do have a strong point :)

    Hands down!
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    Reinterpreting the use of "person" in our constitution would be a radical change that wouldn't even make sense. Take a look.

    Of course a law can be made. The conservative religious radicals on the SC made sure of that by removing protections that have been guaranteed for 50 years.
     
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    Doesn't need to change at all. The Constitution doesn't address a lot of things.

    You're the one that said that you didn't even think a law could be made. Now you're back tracking. And there is no evidence that the SC Judges based their ruling on religious reasoning. And Plessy lasted for 60 years, and then struck down those protections by the SC.
     
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    Why are you pretending I said humans do not have unique DNA .. and Turds do not .. when I never said any such thing.

    it was you who does not understand the difference between descriptive adjective and noun usage of the word human.

    Last .. a Turd is very much alive .. and if from a human .. is a "Human Turd" the same as if a fetus is from a human .. is a "Human Fetus"

    Why you attempted to Turd on the same level as a Fetus .. is a function of your lack of understanding of the subject matter.
     
  10. Kal'Stang

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    You're the one that came up with the comparison. Blame yourself. I was just pointing out the differences. Those differences makes your comparison fail.

    You're the one that didn't mention any sort of noun usage. Only adjective. I'm not talking about adjective. And neither is science. When someone talks about human rights, they're not using the adjective either. Well....YOU might. Most people don't.

    No, a turd is not alive. It does have living organisms in it. But those living organisms are not human.

    Again, you're the one that brought up the comparison. Blame yourself for using a silly comparison just to try and be a smartass.
     
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    The dark ages are still among us. If God is the creator of human life how can one support the destruction of it? Is not abortion in the USA but the fulfillment of Sanger and others who wanted to eliminate the poor, the disabled, the black races? America for too long has buried it's head in the sand when it comes to looking at evil. It is because we have been insulated for so long from true evil on our shores. It is,as if , the genocide that other countries experience from time to time cannot happen here. In the states we have thousands of lives being taken everyday by drugs like Fentenal and cocaine, our children killing each other in the cities at an alarming rate and now the latest fad of random acts of murder instead of random acts of kindness. Yes a woman has a right to her body but she also has a responsibility to preserve it and should she become pregnent the responsibility to protect and preserve the new life in her. Unfortunately we have become a nation of indifference and have turned our backs on the plight of those who are most vulnerable. Yes, rape and incest are very terrible things that on rare occasions happen to females and result in a pregnacy but it should not be a justification for abortion just because it is freely available to terminate a life because one finds pregnacy a nuisance.
     
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    Odd how you want more kids born in this country, a country you make sound horrible.....don't you like children ?
     
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    I may lean more right than left, but I am pro-abortion up until about 4 months of a pregnancy. After that, only if the woman's health is in danger. I think the right side really hurt themselves by fighting this battle too early. The left now has something to deflect from all the problems they have created.
     
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    @Oh Yeah
    Yes sort of

    But it is about time it was accepted fully that the responsibility for any unborn life os equally the male progenitur and it is just as easy for him to abstinence from creating life as she is.
    I also object to forcing à woman who has already been assaulted, to carry the result and go through childbirth after 9 months of struggling socially and at work.
    It is shocking that so many men think pregnancy and childbirth are "business as usual". A "nuisance"? What reality are you living in?
     
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    I would like to see more people respect the sanctity of life at all stages. We are bombarded in our newspapers, television shows, movies and video games with a constant barrage of death and destruction. What use to shock people is just normal everyday fare. As each generation comes along they are more and more callous. It is because I do love my country that I try and make others aware that we are moving closer and closer to losing personal freedom's and being enslaved at the whim of those in government. Many may scoff but when the powers to be in our Executive branch our corrupt and the Judicial branch is involved in covering up those crimes and at times complicit along with the 4th estate of the media you have to wonder when it all crashes.
     
  16. Oh Yeah

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    That's now how it really works though ;is it? There are many men who would like the woman to carry their child to term but many times there i pressure from family to terminate. If a state bans abortion and a girl gets pregnant then the state should be allowed to collect child support at any cost. I have no idea when abortions were ever accepted in the cases of rape and incest. Many of the older countries demanded that a man marry or pay an amount if he was charged with rape, that is, if the father or other clan members didnt kill him. Even in this country abortion wasn't always legal and it was not part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights as many would lead us to believe.
     
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    The UK has just jettisoned à Prime Minister who went to à party in an Italian villa and spoke to an ex KGB operative with no one else présent in the room. This PM is known for his appréciation of alcohol BTW.
    THE UK (unwritten) Constitution made it possible to get rid of him...for that and lying to the Queen, the Parliament and the people.
    You aren't the only ones with concerns about being overrun by powerful people in powerful positions.
    But that is what constitutions are for and I have never seen or heard any journalist or commentator suggest that someone is going to take down the government and install a tyranny. They would never be taken seriously again.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Odd how you want more kids born in this country, a country you make sound horrible.....don't you like children ?


    So you think it's OK to bring kids into a crappy country because you WANT it to be better?

    Uh, that doesn't make it better....


    I think you need a history book to see that disrespect for life and corruption are as old as human beings....there NEVER was a Fairy Tale time where there was all goodness and light..
     
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    If the state bans abortion then the STATE should pay for the kid...


    Oh, you missed the posts by Anti-Choicers who, trying to appear "kind", say they'd make exceptions for rape and incest...totally ILLOGICAL.



    This is NOW.





    It wasnt always illegal either....at the time of the Constitution it was legal..
     
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    They dont have say a thing. The sins of omission that many Television and journalist commit year in and year out is atrocious at best. The 4th estate try's to set the agenda and it doesn't always matter who is in power.
     
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    If that was your criteria for admission into the human race then I guess your point would be valid. Truth is, sometimes, the greatest joy for a family is a child.I get great joy out of my children most of the time. Some of the greatest feelings of joy is when I can go to a restaurant and pick up someones tab without them knowing it. Pay someones toll who is behind you. Hand a bum a fiver instead of a dollar. Leave some vegtables on a neighbors door step. Help anybody who needs a hand if able. It is things like those that changes peoples minds that the world isn't all bad. I'm only one person and I only effect those in my daily life. I cannot control or help the whole world. Jesus said it best to the Apostle Peter " The poor will always be with you". Pass It On it will make you feel better.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Odd how you want more kids born in this country, a country you make sound horrible.....don't you like children ?




    So you think it's OK to bring kids into a crappy country because you WANT it to be better?

    Uh, that doesn't make it better....


    I think you need a history book to see that disrespect for life and corruption are as old as human beings....there NEVER was a Fairy Tale time where there was all goodness and light..

    What TF that has to do with my post ....?? ...doesn't refute it, doesn't change it, doesn't change history, doesn't change what the world is...What TF....just lines in a Hallmark movie..
     
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    You are the one that has failed here.. You are the one claiming a turd is on the same level as a human ... not me. Whats laughable is that you don't even realize it.

    and yes .. a turd .. being composed of living organisms .. is alive ... and yes .. those living organisms are "Human bacteria" bacteria from a human.

    As stated at the beginning .. you do not understand the difference between the word "Human" when used as a descriptive adjective .. and when used as a noun .. it is your conflation of the two that is giving you trouble.

    Go back to the first post I responded to .. and correct your error .. such that you will have said something coherent.
     
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    Why? Did the state get the woman pregnant? I had to pay for all those I fathered. Why should I have to pay when 99% of the time there is an abled body male who is the paternal father. In the other 1% , if needed, I don't see the problem.
    Do you believe every post should be combative and challenged? I thought a forum was for an exchange of ideas and a discussion. I never said it was a crappy country but your post does insinuate that you think were a crappy country. Have you ever visited us? We have good areas and bad areas like any country. we have conflicting politics like post countries. Their has been an erosion of "the value of life" but hopefully people will learn to be kinder to each other. As I stated in my post , my world, extends as far as the people I come in contact with. My extended outreach is contributing to charities.

    I was born to very poor family and spent my early childhood in the Appalachian mountains. In fact , the very hills that are under water in Kentucky. Like many my family moved to Detroit and we were the only whites in a all black neighborhood. We moved around alot and we had poor times and also pockets of prosperity and good times. We were raised to be able to survive and be self supporting if need be. Education was very important. None of us made it to college but we survived better than our parents. At time working two jobs or up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week. What ever it took. Our kids now have a couple who our college grads and others who went through apprenticeship programs. They all had kids and all of them our hard working successful kids who live a life of abundance. My point is that a child born in this country can become very successful. I personally have gone bankrupt but able to recover and retire in comfort. Why would I ever want to abort a child and deprive them of the opportunity to live a useful live? I sometimes wonder how many great minds and wonderful people, who would have made a difference in our lifes, never had a chance because someone decided it would be a inconvenience.
     
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    Until the republicans get a federal ban through. How many do you think will campaign on that this year?
     

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