ACLU defends racial discrimination

Look up AA. And look up drop out rates. Readily available Googling. If you can’t spend less than 1 minute, you’re right, just don’t bother educating yourself. Stick your head in the sand.

Next you’ll need me to prove AA and DE&I policy in corporations. Or govt mandated policies that favor POC businesses for grants and contracts. Seriously. Look it up.

 

The ACLU has been racist for a while.

 

Thafs what I figured. You make a wild claim and now it’s my job to go “look it up”.
I’ll pass.

 

Hi, mudman.

Thank you for taking time to respond to my post.

I've read up on the subject. Being retired, coupled with being an inveterate reader, provides some perks.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.

 

I'm a member, and I wish they did fight racists.

They have defended the free speech rights of the KKK..

But enjoy your fantasy world.

 

Oh the irony.

 

Again, for the really slow... admissions has always been selective. You can call it unfair, but not for the reasons you say, and it's not racist in any rational analysis.

Universities have long sought a diverse student body to give their students a chance to interact with people from different cultures and places.

What is racist is the over century old tradition, among racists, to deny education to minorities. This is just another attempt, and yes, they know what they are saying is crap. They always know, if it wasn't nasty crap, they wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

 

WOW, didn’t see that coming from a mile away. More ostrich behavior. You’re so damn predictable, hehe. That’s right you’ll pass. Because you’re WRONG AGAIN and too cowardly to educate yourself. Wild claim? Seriously. Just wow.

Here. I’ll do your homework for you. Pick a source any source And I won’t bother citing sources about Affirmative Action, quotas and DE&I initiatives, because if you don’t know what’s going on there, I seriously don’t know what to tell you. Youre too misinformed to even discuss the subject to have an opinion.

Or is this all just a troll attempt

https://www.google.com/search?q=drop.oiy+rate+college+by+race&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS849US849&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsaixUMkHHxuFO6wGEY8PagNYkxGnA:1659625690047&ei=2uDrYvXEApeQwbkP_uOowAw&oq=drop.oiy+rate+college+by+race&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBggAEB4QFjIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDMgcIIRCgARAKMgUIIRCrAjoHCAAQRxCwA0oECEEYAFDyB1iiFGCAFmgBcAF4AIABvQGIAeQJkgEDMC44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

 

Nobody is trying to do that. We're simply saying that opportunities shouldn't be denied to someone based on race. And look at what you just said a little closer. You have a problem when certain people are denied opportunities based on race.....unless those people are white or asian. Your hypocrisy would be hilarious if it weren't blatantly racist.

You support discrimination based on race if you like the races that benefit from it. You're very clear on this. Nothing more needs to be said. We're just going to disagree on this.

 

Racists have been doing that, and trying to do that, since the 1800s, the end of Reconstruction, when the KKK terrorism started. After the Civil Rights Act, Southerners built private (mostly bad) schools to avoid integrated public schools. Do I need to even mention what happened to the funding of public schools?

This is no different.

Your so called argument is complete BS, and you know it. There are thousands of schools, you can always find a slot.

You can keep stacking a few lies on top of each other and pretending you have something. But no one that isn't racist will believe something that pathetic.

 

Determining who is qualified for a job, role or position, based on race IS RACIST. It doesn’t matter what race that is or if you FEEL you’re helping people. By helping people with opportunities they don’t necessarily deserve you are denying opportunities to others who are more qualified. It’s basic math. There is a finite number of jobs or positions or spots available in a college, or grants or scholarships, contracts. By picking and choosing according to race or gender who gets the opportunity and who doesn’t, you ARE DISCRIMINATING!!!

There is no way to rationalize your way out of it, especially using the whole, racsim used to exist BS. My kids didn’t enslave anyone. But because they’re white and Jewish, their spot needs to be given to someone of lesser means or qualification, just to make up for terrible **** that happened 100s of years ago? BULLCRAP!!!

YOU are no better than the slavers thinking it’s OK to discriminate. You just think you’re being moral. You’re NOT!!

 

Racists accusing others of being racists...

 

Why do they want a diverse student body.

What inherent gain is there to have diverse skin color? How does that make anything better?

 

Nobody on the left is capable of defending the idea that diversity goals create betterment. Because they don't. There is no defense of them.

 

They bring crowds into stadiums which are huge revenue sources for higher education insitutions.

 

You still didn't answer the question, you just deflected from it with a relativism fallacy.

What benefit is brought by having a diverse ratio in any organization?

 

Curious.

How long does this "correction" exist? Is there an expiration?

Further, why isn't this correction applied equally? Asians are minorities, much more so than blacks, were subject to enslavement and treated poorly... and suddenly, when considering diversity goals they are considered white.

So is it really about righting the wrongs of the past, or is it more about trying to help a specific race over another?

 

They also take up spots that could be filled by kids who want to get an education and not just play sports. Field a team of students who got in normally. That’ll make money too

 

Hope this helps

 

Are you calling me a racist? That’s cute. Just going by the definition, the one discriminating against or thinking lesser of or making broad negative assumptions due to their color or race is the actual racist. Just a reminder Simply pointing out discrimination doesn’t fall into any accepted definition of the term especially when it’s backed up with actual data and not personal opinion. You have to actually do it or support it.

But now the definition is broad, everyone is racist as long someone is outraged. And everyone is outraged by anything now, because they don’t have real issues to worry about, or they make money from it. People connect equity with racism now, which shows that the term has lost all meaning.

 

You understand those diagrams are designed by companies that are paid by corporations to be more diverse due to societal pressures. They are used to sell a program to teach the associates And some of the points are completely subjective and coerced. I’d know. I was involved in such a program.

The engagement one is interesting because it doesn’t measure anything. They measure the engagement through surveys asking about diversity. Of course there is more engagement on a subject that is being asked about. It’s circular reasoning. Also Company Reputation. That’s a doozy. When you have organizations designed to search out and condemn corporations for not following the line, and then pay people to harass them on social media, “Reputation” is relative. Take the Fortune rankings. Diversity has only recently become a determining category. It never existed. So now you have to qualify just to be be highly ranked. That is slimy. And in order to prove your diversity, you have to report your racial quota numbers. And no matter how successful you are, if your racial quota doesn’t meet a certain standard, that was determined yesterday, you are not “diverse” enough. Nah, not racist AT ALL But you can hire a company that can come in and show you a diagram about how to fix everyone. Hehe. Understand how this works?

 

Nah what’s really not racist is only hiring whites.

 

Nah. That practice died out a long time ago. But how many POC should a company hire? Should it be 16% black, a certain number of Asians or Indians? And how many females do you need to be diverse enough? Does it have to be 50/50? And if you’re having trouble finding qualified applicants, then what? Do you hire the POC over the equally or more qualified white guy just to meet quotas? Psssst, quotas are discrimination.

Are fishing companies all racist and misogynistic because it’s almost all men? Same with construction? How about teachers ? Mostly women. Education must hate men, correct?

And BTW, the NBA is really racist because there just aren’t that many white guys starting. Same with the NFL too. Seems like a weird disparity if you look at who’s playing and the Demographics of the nation? Me? I want the best people to start. I don’t give a crap about quotas. But, it seems to be a one way street. It’s only “bad” if it works one way. Like computer Engineers at Google. Not too many black people. But that’s a problem, right?

 

So what percentage of the students at Harvard had a parent who bought the school a football stadium? I'm not sure that is a common thing.

 

No harvard is more likely “legacy” admissions