Rep. Donalds to Newsmax: GOP Courting Black Voters for 'First Time Since the '60s'

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  1. Starcastle

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    This man got 6% of the black vote in 2012.

     
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    It depends on how you look at it. Every year more blacks vote Republican. If you're saying that that increase hasn't really effected any election you may be right. But, the trend is up and at some point it will effect an election.
     
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    I would equate republicans aggressively going after the black vote as being similar to spending big bucks to try and win California in the next presidential election. It is a waste. That does not mean black people do not matter but it is a pipe dream that blacks will change much because they have not.

    You have Asians who were 4% of the vote in 2020 and growing. Formulating a strategy to turn some of them would be a good idea for republicans.

    10-20% of Hispanic voters could be turned over time.

    Jewish voters in some states are worth targeting for votes.

    Most importantly are white voters who were 67% of the total in 2020. Moderate and independent white voters were the difference in the last 2 elections.
     
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    That is simply not true.

    The only inroads republicans seem to make with minorities is when the democrats run the whitest Casper candidate possible like John Kerry or Biden. There is no trend.

    Look at Hispanics from 04 to 08.

    Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 04 and then McCain only got 31% in 08. McCain and Bush had the same views pertaining to immigration.
     
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    https://digitalnews.ua.edu/2021/04/black-republicans-growing-in-numbers/

    https://www.ajc.com/news/black-men-...umbers-poll-shows/OVDSJ7F5JBE6FCNRNC4MMEJSKY/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...ats-among-hispanics-at-27-among-black-voters/
     
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    The daily beast? Really? More it’s not possible for a black to be conservative without being a traitor to their race nonsense. As If blacks have to be liberal democrats or else…
     
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    I have been in nursing since 1990. I have worked with many educated and professional black folks. I'm talking about black Americans not immigrants.

    While more educated middle class blacks might be more moderate in their views for 75% of them the idea of voting republican is anathema. They have been politically socialized to believe one party is bad and the other good.

    It's a lost cause!

    In 1980 Reagan got 14% of the black vote. John Anderson got 3%. So 17% of blacks did not vote democrat! In 1980!

    In the last 4 presidential elections the republican candidate got just 8% on average. So how is that improving?
     
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    Bob Marley said to free yourselves from mental slavery.
     
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    Doesn't help if you lose the Woman's vote (all races) in the decades ahead. As Kansas showed, people don't like the fringes of either
    party, and the total anti-abortionists stance is fringe.
     
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    Joe Biden got 87% of the black vote!!!

    They ran the whitest most racist pos and still got 87%!

    Here is the former mayor of NYC and his black wife saying that Biden needed to apologize for his racist past and his associations with known racists and segregationists.



    The man who argued that school integration would create a "racial jungle" got 87% of the black vote! That means lost cause! When democrats ran a black candidate he got 95% and 93%.
     
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    That's the result when the Republicans run a total dick of a candidate like Trump. They weren't voting as much FOR Biden as AGAINST Trump.
    Is what it is.
     
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    'Black people are too dumb to know better' and 'black people are lazy' remain the go to explanations conservatives offer for black people voting Democrat. Funny thing is black people actually know that right wingers say this stuff. Intelligent folk might join those dots.

    They might also ask if implying that black people already in Congress are somehow less worthy of their spots than white people (the 'meritocracy' argument) when trying to explain away the lack of black GOP representitives in Congress might also be connected to the lack of black GOP voters. (for those playing at home the number of black Democrats in the current congress exceed the total number of black GOP representitives in the history of the US)

    They won't, of course.
     
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    We need to make the effort. There are more African Americans running for elected office at all levels than ever before. Including the US House of Representatives. This will not happen overnight. Until Trump, Republicans figured out how to win elections with no African American votes while democrats seek their vote and bring no change or improvement, taking them for granted. Some African Americans have realized that this reality is not helping their communities. They realize that they will benefit of both parties are competing for their vote.
     
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    The women’s vote won’t change as most of the pro life movement is women and they will still vote GOP.
     
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    Who said that blacks in congress are not worthy? I have been very critical of republican candidates like Herschel Walker and Kim Klacik. I started a whole thread on Madison Cawthorn.

    As for intelligence the Brookings institute a top left wing think tank said that IQ is tied to educational and financial success. Read for yourself.

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...ore-gap-why-it-persists-and-what-can-be-done/
     
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    There are few soft spots in the black community from which to mine. Most blacks who vote republican either have military ties or they have strong Christian beliefs.

    It is institutionalized. From career choices to college majors.
     
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    Those are good starting points, the military and religious belief. Add in school choice and notice that African American parents have been protesting trans and crt in their kids schools. Ben Carson started out in his career as a liberal democrat and evolved over time to where he is now. We should leave no votes or people behind in building our working class and middle class coalition.
     
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    A better question is when will the poor and middle-class white voters pack up and leave the Republican plantation? As noted by American humorist, Will Rodgers, almost 100 years ago noting the wage theft support from the GOP and other conservatives:
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    The GOP is no longer the tool of the establishment elites and the country club set. You are using fake news.
     

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