DeSantis suspends Tampa prosecutor who vowed not to criminalize abortion

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Man you just smacked them with facts.
     
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    The ABA, the organization of lawyers from trial lawyers to corporate lawyers to prosecutors, including the one who was relieved of duty, will do their work behind the scenes. And yes, the ABA has the statutory authority to sue the Governor for removal, including Warren himself as well. But the ABA will first work behind the scenes and it is a very powerful organization. Any lawyer practicing in the state which they live and work must pass the Bar and be accepted in the Bar Association.

    The problem is the removal was not based on anything the chief prosecutor did or didn't do while in office. It was based on a letter he signed when Roe v Wade was still Constitutional and that there were GOP politicians and proposed bills that were calling for the prosecution of those who perform abortions, whether they be doctors or the patients themselves if Roe v Wade was overturned. Florida's current anti abortion law does not have that on the books as of now for any prosecution of any physician who may perform abortions.
     
  3. hawgsalot

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    So it's ok to try to remove someone from office but not ok when they actually do remove someone violating their constitutional duty. Got it, makes sense.
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    When was it declared unconstitutional and it was still a premeptive declaration he would not enforce a law duly passed by the state legislature. And that was not the only issue.
     
  5. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    First, this reply to line makes zero sense because it 100% opposite of what I said.


    Second, he didn’t actually do that. Believing Ron’s lies again?

    A law that was stuck down because it’s violates Florida constitution? So he was fired for following the constitution?
     
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    All prosecutorial discretion is situational, which makes the removal even more bizarre legally and illogically. The reason it is illogical is that the removal was based on a letter he signed a year or two ago by some 80 plus prosecutors. Even under Florida law, there is no current provision to prosecute physicians who perform abortions, not even the one signed in April 2022 unless this is an attempt by DeSantis to scrap that law and get the Florida Legislature to pass a law that allows prosecutorial investigation on any and all abortions. Or it is an attempt to "purge" the civil service of peope who professionally disagree what DeSantis is doing. Take your pick here.
     
  7. hawgsalot

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    So, the Supreme Court just said Mississippi's abortion law was constitutional and Florida's which is the same this guy says isn't constitutional? Makes sense.
     
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    Prosecutors do not the discretion to void laws duly passed by the legislature.

    "....So they get to nullify the laws duly passed by a state legislature? “To take a position that you have veto power over the laws of this state is untenable,” Mr. DeSantis said Thursday. He’s right about that. For a prosecutor to announce ahead of time that he intends to decline whole categories of cases, simply because he disagrees with the legislators who wrote the criminal code, is an abuse of discretion."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ron-de...rtion-crime-11659651749?mod=opinion_lead_pos3
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not for him to replace. Voters elect these officers, and this guy was elected multiple times
     
  10. Yulee

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    He can only temporarily replace.
     
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    I believe they'll win if that's the case, the question is it really the case. It'll all come out, but the MSM wanted the abortion headline and Florida's law is right in line with most of the country, 15 weeks, with exceptions. It doesn't make to me that he would remove him only over a letter, but we'll see, I guess.
     
  12. Yulee

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    That law was struck down by the Florida Supreme Court
     
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    I believe that a woman has a right to abortion, that she alone controls her body, and that the right is guaranteed in the Constitution by way of the Ninth Amendment.

    That said, I'm all for getting rid of any and all prosecutors put into office with money from Soros. Right on DeSantis!
     
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    Soros. LOL. At least you admit it was nothing but a political witch hunt.
     
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    Just because Ron used the Republican boogeyman to stoke his base doesn’t make anymore true.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    By his actions, Soros has shown himself to be an enemy of constitutional governance, an enemy of the Constitution. Call it a political witch hunt if you like, but he is an enemy of the US, even though he may be best friends with the imposter POTUS.
     
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    So now it's 24 weeks?
     
  18. Yulee

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    It’s with the appeals court. It was struck down and during the appeal it’s temporary in place. But the Florida Constitution is clear in privacy rights. So it will make the law very tough enforce.

    To call this neglect of duty was false and an outright lie by the Governor.
     
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    You said the lawyer was fired because he took money from Soros, and if that is true (which is probably isn't) then the firing is in fact a witch hunt.
     
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    No sir, I did not say that. YOU said that.

    I said that as far as I'm concerned EVERY prosecutor that was funded by Soros, like the one recently kicked out of office by San Francisco voters, should be kicked out of office.

    DeSantis fired the guy in Tampa because that man REFUSED to enforce Florida law. Do you see the difference?
     
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    He suspended. He can’t fire him. The Florida Senate will decide that
     
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    Which statute specifically are you referring to? Or are you just talking out your ass?

    False.

    This is false as well.
     
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    Promise not to uphold your oath of office. Get fired. It really is that simple.
     
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    Which case did he refuse to prosecute?

    Answer: Not a single one.

    Ok. We were talking about the FL lawyer and you said nothing about anyone in San Fransisco. You said this:

    Sure sounded like you were talking about the same guy everyone else here was talking about
     
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    Did you read the prosecutor's public statement regarding prosecuting certain abortion cases? Can you find it on your own, or must I chase down the man's statement?
     

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