America, so far, is exceptional in that it still exists after nearly 250 years and public attention,

Only in that moment. The UK became far more powerful after our independence as they spread their empire globally to where the sun never set on its empire until after WWII.

 

And yet he still said and wrote what he did. He was a great American.

 

What is the point of having words on a paper if you don't put them into practise?

 

It would have been far more powerful if the US was part of it.
I dunno how you think this is up for debate. lol

 

Poppycock.
The UK has just impeached its Prime Minister, the second in ten years, and treason as a crime has been abolished for years.
The rest too is completely incorrect.
I don't know why you try to write about what you clearly know nothing about.
Of course we have separation of powers. As for the search and seizures, ISTM no one in the US is safe from those. UK authorities wouldn't dream of such harassment.
I have no idea who has been telling you porkies.

 

XXJefferson#51 said: ↑
"Go read what Frederick Douglas wrote about the issue from a freed slave perspective and then love America as much as he did"

Link:
Frederick Douglass's Love-Hate Relationship With America | The Takeaway | Zócalo Public Square (zocalopublicsquare.org)

 

What on earth does this mean?
What is a "typical revolution"?

 

Interesting.
Though it does not make three French Revolutions before the turn of the 19th century.

 

It gets pretty messy and it depends on how it is defined and you almost need a scorecard, but at the risk of being tedious:

• 1789 The Revolution and the First Republic
  
• 1799 Napoleon coup d etat
  
• 1814 Napoleon ousted and king restored
• 1830 House of Bourbon overthrown
• 1848 House of Orleans ousted; Second Republic
• 1852 Another Napoleon kills the 2nd Republic and installs the 2nd Empire
• 1871 Napoleon III dethroned; Third Republic
• 1945 4th Republic after being freed from Germany
  
• 1958 and counting New Constitution and 5th Republic

Pays your money and takes your choice!

 

I asked if the civil war pointing it out enough, not whether it was good or bad.

 

Those arent revolutions. .revolutions involve the overthrow of the govt by the people.
The above are power plays by oppositional idéologies.
And changes in Republics in France are when there is a changé in the Constitution. Like if you pass an amendment to yours.

 

Unless you know as much as me I suggest you not accuse me of not knowing of which I speak. The UK AFAIK has never impeached a prime minister. Parliamentary systems never impeach; they just vote down one of their own. When your legislative, executive and half of your judicial "branches" are in the same branch that is what is called as the non-separation of powers. Treason is not a crime in the UK??? I have to admit I did not know that, but neither do I believe it. The UK has come a good ways since our safeguards against search and seizure were constitutionally in direct response to the at will random searches that England had. The UK still makes it easier to obtain a warrant and once issued the warrant is not as restrictive as ours.

 

Well, yes, it is a matter of how it is defined. All I know is that the United States of America has had one republic while France has had five (by name) which if nothing else shows a ton of looseness and non-durability.

 

Having lived in the US, UK and France, and being à citizen of two of them, I suggest I do know more than you about how they arrange their construct.
Your problem is that you insist that other countries use American terminology.
Whatever you call it, the result is the same.
The UK has "defenestrated" two primé ministers in the last ten years and is currently in the middle of electing à new one . I am not going to get involved in comparing various methods of unseating leaders and governments in various countries.
Every western democracy has à separation of powers.
The US is not unique.
I suggest if you want to avoid doing an Alex Jones spreading misinformation, do some research before you go public.

 

I am hoping the right comes back to their senses, and we can last another 250

 

The term "republic" is merely an indication of the change in the Constitution and à country without a monarch.
How many amendments have you had? I believe it is more than 25. What was that about stability ?
If you want to understand other places, learn to understand their terminology. They use their own vocabulary for the same concept you refer to in your own vocabulary.
Learn their own way they practise democracy, what words mean and some understanding of the structure of their politics.
Because you are making some serious mistakes. For example the very idea that European democracies don't have a tripartite construction is a fundamental mistake .

 

There has to be far less mudslinging and kneejerk blame.
An awareness of global issues and pressures particularly in issues of trade would help.

 

Would someone be so good as to tell me how much instruction the average American students in high school get regarding basic European political structure from the EU through to national construct?

 

One cannot win an argument by simply altering definitions. "Separation of powers" as set forth by Montesquieu means a precise way of organization government where the three (only) parts of government, executive, legislative, and judicial, are separate and independent while still having a method of check and balances where one branch has a unique limited and top level control over other branches. One of those controls is called impeachment where the legislative branch can non-criminally remove in extreme circumstances top officials in the executive branch. (Another could be where the executive or legislative branch can remove top officials in the judicial branch, but our framers did not adopt that.) Most every other democratic or quasi democratic country has a parliamentary system which does not have a separation of the three branches of government as at least the executive and legislative "branches" are one in the same, and often all three "branches are one and the same -- in whole or in part, and does not have an impeachment process (at least among the branches of government.) To remove the executive head of a parliamentary system, the prime minister, parliament simply takes a vote as if it was passing a new speeding law. This is defenestration but is not impeachment.

 

Amending a constitution, a necessary process, is not at all like or the same as rewriting a constitution. An amended constitution (ours has 27 of something around 100 proposed) is tweaking a durable constitution. A rewrite is starting over with another new non-durable constitution, though a country can call it and spin it any way they choose. Republic as used in France did usually mean as you say a change from a monarchy, but it usually came with a rewrite (do over) of a (not the) constitution, not with amending,

 

I don't really know but spent about 15 years as a high school substitute teacher and got some familiarity. Through 12 years a student might have 2 to 3 year long classes in world history covering maybe 4000 years (with more emphasis on recent history) They may get 3 or 4 hours of learning about other countries' political system of governance -- not a whole lot.

 

Slavery was common in every civilization in human history. It was common in ancient Egypt, the Aztecs, African tribes and American tribes. What makes America unique is that 100s of thousands of whites fought and died to end the slavery of blacks. It was white Europeans in general that killed the institution of slavery that existed for millennia. Not only that, they forced non-white nations to end the institution. They were not completely successful as there are black/asian/Islamic civilizations that still engage in it.

What is odd about modern white progressives is that no other group could care less about modern day slavery while simultaneously caring passionately about slavery that has not existed for a century and a half. It is almost like they are using past actions of long dead people to accrue power today. One thing is certain, modern day progressives could not care less about poor, working class and middle class Americans..... they hate those people more than anybody else on earth. They hide their bigotry behind insane virtual signaling about weird sex practices, gender dysphoria, race baiting and climate change. We see them and we know them. Frankfurt School fanatics.... every last one of them. These people are pushing the kind of ideas that always and without exception lead to genocide. Those that can make you believe absurdity can make you commit atrocity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

 

Is life a horse race?

 

I told you I am not going to argue semantics.
I don't care how defenestration is achieved. One method does not prove exceptionalism the start of this conversation.
What you started with i adeclaration that because your definition does not in your words happen, then the USA is superior.
You do of course réalisé that if the USA had the UK principle of voting for the party and not tha person you would still have a Republican government.
If you wont check to ser how other countries have a three part division of governance and their interaction, and you don't believe me I can only assume you prefer to remain locked in your box.

 

It shows.