THE GREENS ARE ENEMIES OF HUMANITY: The Coming War on Agriculture.

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  1. wist43

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    Lol... I'm not telling you how to think, just pointing out that the MSM and government already do that for you :)

    Pretty weak.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If Trump were still President American Seals would be helping Russian Spetsnaz to kill Ukranes.
    The main reason for high food prices is that the Russians have cut off the food coming from Ukraine, which supplied most of the world's food not coming from the US.
     
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    Very well stated, but don't underestimate the bastards. While they have not yet got the courage to bite off Hoover and Grand Coulee et al dams the greenies are against dams and want to take them out, and CA told the farmers they couldn't use the water flowing through their property, both to protect a few fishies
     
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    Not exactly. The idea, like in Agenda 21 is to have everyone living in high rise urban buildings, not in suburbia or rural, and riding bicycles. They want to keep the land for parks and agriculture but want it all under government control and administration. They are knocking on a few doors as we speak in this regard, primarily (currently) through zoning restrictions.
     
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    one needs OIL to make fertilizer, as long as you want to burn it all for fuel, you are condemning yourself to battle yourself
     
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    Who is "we"?
     
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    Made up number.
    Bulverism Fallacy.
     
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    "The West" is not running out of water. The Socialist Dictatorship of Commiefornia is having water issues though (which will turn into electricity issues), because they don't collect any of it as they should (might kill some sea turtle or something) and they already have Lake Mead pretty well drained due to their electricity demand (they can't run on wind mills and solar panels alone).

    The Greens have EVERYTHING to do with it. They are literally destroying a plethora of life on a planet that they claim to care about the well-being of. It is a religious cult that is causing A LOT of hardship (and even death).

    Damn near all water issues in "The West" are self imposed by liberal governments and their asinine regulations.
     
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    Putin is a socialist. So are the leftists in control of the Democrat Party in the former USA.

    So yes, according to those terms, Putin is a leftist.
     
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    i guess your question is:

    Where are you going to go? Who are you going to fight?

    i'm going to stay right here and grow a little plot of beans, sweet potatoes, and cabbage.
     
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    Why do you believe that? Trump kept us out of war during his entire term. Biden's handlers already have us in a proxy war and keep escalating it.

    Why do you believe that we can easily ship weapons into Ukraine yet we are simultaneously unable to ship some food out of Ukraine? --- High food prices are a result of COVID lockdown policies and Green New Deal energy policies. Leftist communists want to do "climate lockdowns" next... They're already floating around the idea of implementing "COVID-style lockdowns" every two years, probably coinciding with midterm selections and presidential selections.

    You are forgetting about the Netherlands. They did it until their government waged war against their farmers. Same with the Canadian government and their farmers.
     
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    And how do you defend it against the hungry hordes fleeing the cities?
     
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    I understand. Right now this cult has progress choked off. In time....

    "NAWAPA is a grand plan. It will tap some of the continent’s largest rivers — including the Yukon in Alaska, and the Peace and Fraser in British Columbia — and store most of it in an enormous valley that runs the length of British Columbia, turning the much of the valley into a reservoir 500 miles long. A canal would carry fresh water from British Columbia 2,000 miles east to the Great Lakes, diluting their polluted waters and open a commercial waterway from Vancouver to Lake Superior. Other canals, tunnels, and pumps would send water from the reservoir in British Columbia to some of the driest regions of the United States and Mexico: the inland Pacific Northwest, the Great Basin, Southern California and the desert Southwest, and the northern Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua."

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    "NAWAPA would deliver 158 million acre-feet of water to the US, Canada, and Mexico — more than 10 times the annual flow of the Colorado River. It would turn the Southwest into an oasis, and the Great Basin into productive farmland. Power from its hydroelectric dams would boost U.S. electricity supplies. It would create “incalculable” economic benefit for decades. Its reservoirs would become tourist attractions."

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-forgotten-project-that-could-have-saved-amer

    At some point, in some form, the solutions are available when we are ready to implement them.

    We should be more open to Canada's oil pipeline projects that they need, because in time we, and Mexico, would greatly benefit from water projects that transit Canada. In time...
     
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    Humanity.
     
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    What is a socialist ?
     
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    Sounds like a plan. And eliminates the guy who said water is the problem, not the government banning agriculture..... let alone CA already banning truck drivers!
     
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    Humanity as a species will survive. A LOT of human lives will be lost though.
     
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    One who supports socialism.

    Socialism is government interference in the economy. It takes two major forms: Fascism and communism.

    Fascism is government manipulation of markets.
    Communism is government ownership of markets.

    Both forms of socialism are abhorrent, since they are theft of wealth.
     
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    In times like these, it seems reasonable to recall that things are never quite as good or bad as they seem.

    One thing's for sure, though, it's time to get up to the plate and swing like your life depended on it.

    BIG government ALWAYS = BIG trouble for the common man.
     
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    Yes, CA's war on trucks makes the utilization of LA/Long Beach Harbor a challenge and that has national impact.

    It's likely well past time to make better use of Seattle's Puget Sound and the Panama Canal and our Gulf Coast Harbors. Anytime CA is the only game in town it's going to be a problem. They love the whip hand and being uncooperative.
     
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    I was also wondering how many of the truckers who bring the fruits and vegetables to market are independent owner/operators.
     
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    China gained control of the Panama Canal back in the 90's... Clinton had a hand in it.

    I assume they still have control - I haven't followed the issue since we lost that battle.

    Ultimately, one of their logical intermediate goals is to create enough suffering among the people that they clamor for the government to "do something".

    Artificial shortages and rationing are a logical step for them.

    The Establishment artificially created the depression in the 1930's; they're doing it again now.
     
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    Well, if the world needs it and China is trying to stop it from being utilized, they can't stop us from liberating it. They simply cannot project force and protect resupply lines to this area of the world as effectively as we can.

    "Although, Panama maintains absolute control of the Panama Canal - and has done so since 1999 - Chinese companies have been increasingly involved in infrastructure, electricity, and logistics around the canal."

    I'm sure a lot of this usage is related to trade with us, so would be greatly reduced if we stopped trading with them, point is, they likely have this interest in the canal because of their trade relationship with us, which makes them less likely to get froggy with it.

    "Many of the traditional "soft power" tools that the U.S. might look to: the World Bank, the Development Finance Corporation, the U.S. Trade Development Agency, the U.S. Agency for International Development and even the U.S. Export-Import Bank have limitations on their ability to operate in Panama because Panama is an upper income country. Recently, at the Summit of the Americas, President Biden and his administration briefly mentioned the need to revisit the potential for the DFC and United States International Development Agency (USAID) to operate in Panama. Perhaps given the recent political challenges in Panama, the US ought to consider some limited assistance to help those communities most affected by the Covid-19 pandemic."

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/what-biden-should-stop-china-controlling-panama-canal
     
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    A LOT.

    There is an entire system of trucking at the CA state line where Owner/Operators who refuse to operate in CA, drop loads, that are then picked up by CA drivers. The CA drivers drop the load they brought to the stateline and pick up the dropped load, and so on.

    This is an expansion of a process that was already in place as truckers can't take triples into CA, they have to be reduced to double trailers.
     
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