Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

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  1. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They need to travel to a clinic that offers the services they want. They have ALWAYS had to do that.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Oh? So if a woman 8 1/2 months pregnant goes into a hospital and demands an abortion she's given one?




    LOL, you are AVOIDING my question....YOU CLAIM abortion is not banned.....isn't it? ;) LOLOLO


    OH NOW YOU CHANGED IT TO " not nationwide"..... so you were wrong, abortion is banned...:) :)
     
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    You haven’t read what I just read {{{{{{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}}}}
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why do they need to travel if


    """"Hotdogr said:
    Abortion will never be banned."""""



    NOT to another state...
     
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    Morals are not morals if one abandons them whenever it's convenient for them.
     
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    mswan Well-Known Member

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    It says that many who claim to be religious have no morals they're willing to live by.
     
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    :) I always knew that...
     
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    It's unfortunately all too common. It's called "cheap Grace."
     
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    OMG this is raging irrelevant nonsense "A baby is potentially a child" ? Who cares .. as this has nothing to do with a zygote .. nor help your absurd claim that a single human cell is a baby.

    Then you follow with more irrelevant gibberish -- who is using potential as an excuse to kill something that's growing ?? and who cares .as this has nothing to do with the zygote.

    Your claim that a zygote is a "baby" is unsupporated nonsense .. and on the basis of nonsense ... you seek to force your religious beliefs on others through physical violence .. do you not see the problem in law justified on the basis of unsupported nonsense ?
     
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    Do you believe this to be a permanent condition or one that will worsen? If so, then you have been propagandized, and/or are yourself, a propagandist. Again, democrat propagandists MUST keep peoples hair on fire over this issue through the midterms in order to make the best political hay for democrats, who are in trouble this time.

    I believe the overwhelming majority of The People, regardless of political affiliation, are in favor of choice. Those politicians who disagree are doomed to failure at the polls, except where their constituency actually supports them. That is the beauty of having this issue decided by the states. The people can support those representatives who represent The People... and send the other scoundrels packing... just the way the founders intended.

    I will make some bold prognostications:
    • Most of the states who currently prohibit clinics from performing abortion, will either be forced by the voters to revert (like Kansas), or...
    • Those state politicians who refuse to represent the will of their constituency will be sent packing, or...
    • Neighboring states will see a boom of clinics along their borders, complete with bus service and overnight accommodations to service the demand.
    The beauty of our free market is that where demand exists, suppliers quickly appear. And the beauty of our political system, at the state level anyway, is that The People can choose representatives that reflect the will of The People, and send the rest packing. For this reason, my belief is that the current situation, to borrow a term, is 'transitory', and that ultimately this will be on par a good thing for women's choice, the will of The People, and our country as a whole.
     
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    Perfect!
     
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    The zygote stage has already created all the DNA information and mapping that IS the baby/person/human. It already IS. You can't say it's potential. It is. It is now a thing, and that thing is growing by the day, hour, minute. You cannot discount that. Or shrug it off or dismiss it. You cannot bring potential to something that already is. It IS just as much as a baby, a child, and infant, a teenager. It will potentialy make it to adulthood everybit as much as you could say to any other stage of development.

    Zygote, is just a name for the stage of development of growth towards that path to adulthood. But it already is. That's what you are not getting. A zygote is not an empty sack that creates the thing that IS the thing. It already IS the thing. It just goes through various stages of development on it's path towards adulthood. Just as a child does. Just as a young adult does. It's just at it's most earliest form of development. You need to reconize the very stark difference between single cells of various things because their DNA structures them out to be very differnt things. In a sense your arguement would be like claiming each seed of plant is exactly the same...because they are small!

    I'm sorry if the reality of the situation is inconvienant for you. But that's what you've created at conception. Once sperm feralizes egg, that's it. That's the only two ingredients that come together to create the the thing. That's exactly when the dna structure and mapping of the thing is created. It already hits my three criteria. The rest of development is just feeding and protection.

    Science!
     
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    Because I wont be alive in three or four decades.
     
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    They just have to travel long distances to get one.
     
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    Yes. Compelling people to consume a pharma product to avoid an insignificant risk is an extreme abuse of power. While this may strengthen support from big pharma, results show that this inferior product does not deliver what was promised. The weak and frail may want to consider taking it, but keep in mind that they are weak and frail as a result of consuming government products.

    Odd that you bring up medical license considering the reason doctors were required to get them. Quackery caused more harm than good. Did you know that blowing smoke up the rectum was an accepted medical practice? People consumed snake oil as a cure all. This inferior pharma product is the new snake oil and they enjoy record profits because of their political power, not actual scientific results. They even scored a sweet disclaimer so that they enjoy the profits without the risk of liability.

    I was once the most popular guy at the nudist camp because I could carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen donuts!
     
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    Stupid, isn't it?
     
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    Count your blessings for one day at a time.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Okay, overturn it and replace it with one granting 15 weeks. They could have done that, and they didn't. As I understand it, the 15 weeks in Dobbs only applies to Mississippi.
     
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    :) Lost the last round so want to start it over again ? :) No , thanks, you were shown to be wrong and I don't want to go through all your baloney again
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why should women have to be fighting the 19th century minds of misogynists ??

    Well, misogynists are stupid....and frightened...
     
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    Why should people overlook the Republican anti-abortion harassment of women?
     
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    There's no way most women I know can get their heads around government telling them when to have children. Republicans are like a dog that caught the car and don't know what to do with it.

    I'm a guy and I'm insulted by rush to pass draconian anti-abortion laws. Sheesh.
     
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    Read the rest of the message you quoted, and you will learn that I don't believe they will. Nevertheless, left wing propagandists do need to make significant political hay ahead of the midterms.
     
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    Not at all. I made a mis-statement, which I corrected in my next post. You, having no other argument, chose to cling to that mis-statement, quoting it over and over, in order to declare some sort of thin victory. Simple as that.

    I am not here to "win" arguments. I am here to seek truth. Truth, as I see it, is that there will never be a national banning of abortion, and because of that, women will always have an option to get one. Further, I think that those options will become greater over time, and that The People has a great opportunity to send those politicians who want to block that progress to the woodshed.

    Now, if you want to declare some "victory" over a corrected mis-statement, then congratulations, here's your trophy --> :icon_shithappens:
     
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    The Court did the right thing, abortion is not a federal issue. Get over it.
     

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