Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. HockeyDad

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    LoL... I believe it 100%. I don't think Joe even knows he is. The deep state tell Joe what they do after it is complete. He is not part of the decision making process in any way. I doubt he even gets to choose the brand of adult diapers he wears. This is actually a scarier situation. Unaccountable sociopathic bureaucrats are running amok with no oversight whatsoever by people responsible to the voters. This is a deep state coup. THIS MUST BE PUNISHED. In my opinion, this insurrection rises to the level that the death penalty must be considered for the conspirators involved. This has to be the number one priority when Republicans take power again.
     
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    So, you seem to be saying that while the secret police chief, Comey, rigged the election for Trump the State Department remained loyal to HRC.

    Where was the J6 committee when we really needed it?
     
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    Not his to take anything, classified or not. It belongs to US. He's supposed to turn over to the archives THEN can request them from them
     
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    Is that what the law says?
     
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    Afaik presidential documents must be turned over to the National Archives, but that doesn't include documents not related to the business of the Office - personal stuff. When you're moving sometimes it's easier to have the packers pack up everything and you will sort it out at your convenience. I've driven through housing developments where the garage of the owners are stuffed with unopened boxes -- months after moving in. Perhaps Trump felt no urgency to go through the boxes to determine what he should turn over. But he was corroborating with the National Archives.
     
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    When ordinary citizens like you accept that violating the letter and spirit of the Constitution is "doing their jobs", it's just a matter of time before the whole thing collapses.

    When ordinary citizens like you accept and promote the tactics of Stalin, it's safe to say the end is near for the American experiment.

    When domestic enemies of the US Constitution proudly proclaim their contempt for constitutional governance along with the talking heads on MSM, it's all over but the crying.

    Yes, Liberty and the rule of law die to thunderous applause from ordinary and misguided citizens.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tl/dr
     
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    That is the FBI playbook: “We can’t comment on an ongoing investigation, but we will be selectively leaking up to the day of the election, and we will keep it up if Trump wins”
    They should remake the FBI bulldoze the DC building and move them out of DC to someplace like Texas.
    If I was a juror on a federal trial and the defendant claimed evidence was planted, I’d be inclined to believe him.
     
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    Crimes involving the mishandling of classified information are significantly different from allegations about 'waterboarding', torture, and 'war crimes'.

    Maybe this would be a good time to attempt (ATTEMPT) for about the 100th time to get some among the Leftist "flock" here to grasp the concept of what the responsibilities are when a person holds a security clearance -- let alone one of the highest clearances of all, which is what Hillary had. There's lots of information everywhere, but what people may not understand is what a SCIF is. It's a "Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility" -- and when Hillary Clinton was stupidly receiving, transmitting, storing, generating, and retransmitting classified information on her personal computer, she did so in her personal mansion, which did not have a SCIF. That is malfeasance, and it is a crime, because it puts classified information out "in-the-clear"....

    Link: https://scifglobal.com/scif-definition-what-is-a-scif/
     
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    But Comey said no prosecutor would prosecute Hillary for it. Yet many are zealous about prosecuting Trump over it.
     
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    LIE

    Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. did not find that Mrs. Clinton’s conduct revealed “intentional misconduct or indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice.” But a person in her position, he said, “should have known that an unclassified system was no place” for the emails she was sending. And he said it raised troubling questions about how the State Department handled classified information.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html


    "Although there is evidence of potential violation of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."


    "Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of the classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

    "Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence that classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system in violation of a federal statute that makes it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute, making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...that-explain-the-fbis-clinton-email-findings/
     
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    *sigh* Your reading comprehension of your own sources is crappy. I've got no time for such crap. Enjoy your day.
     
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    Weird you don't get the INVESTIGATION going on now with TFG VS the ending of the investigation when Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would charge Hillary?

    I hope they prosecute TFG, but as of now, it's simply an investigation. Hillary cooperated, TFG is dragging his feet...
     
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    Potential Buttercup "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case"
     
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    A name for people who want to jail their political opposition is "fascist".
    IMO, ordinary human beings should resist the temptation to resort to fascist tactics.
     
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    Well said! :applause:
     
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    Comey disagrees

    Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. did not find that Mrs. Clinton’s conduct revealed “intentional misconduct or indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice.” But a person in her position, he said, “should have known that an unclassified system was no place” for the emails she was sending. And he said it raised troubling questions about how the State Department handled classified information.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html


    "Although there is evidence of potential violation of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."


    "Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of the classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

    "Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence that classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system in violation of a federal statute that makes it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute, making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...that-explain-the-fbis-clinton-email-findings/
     
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    I'm surprised the FBI hasn't issued their agents brown shirts yet.
     
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    Because of Comey's and Lynch's deliberate, collusive malfeasance, there wasn't even an ATTEMPT made to prosecute Hillary for her baldly OBVIOUS crimes against national security and classified information. And Democrats were happy to ignore it all, focusing all their gathering rage against Donald Trump when the election results were announced in November 2016. What a deceitful bunch of hypocrites!
     
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    Well gee they went to an unelected judge who donated to Obama and the Jeb Bush campaign and they haven’t released ONE DETAIL about what they’re even looking for or one SHRED of criminality.

    All they have to do is release the warrant. On what grounds does the warrant about national archive material need to be sealed? All they have to do is release what they went for or what evidence they had to justify it. But they’re not.
     
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    I guess I really don't care about the Hillary whataboutism. I do know that she was never charged with any offence and Humpty had four years oversight of that.
     
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    I'm just sometimes flabbergasted, by even those here, that show they don't give a **** about the breakdown of our democracy. When Biden campaiged on Build back better few understood the implication of that requiring a tearing down first. It's like a glass. You can't refill it until it's empty.
     
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    He also promised that he was going to "lock her up".
     
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