The complete Sovietization of the Democrat party

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  1. popscott

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    Sooooo.... those records are inside the Obama Presidential Library building?
     
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    I am denying you to spin and misquote the man... like you have done many times... But I'm sure you will tell me what CNN tells you to say... if there is anyone on here that "can't put it in your own words." it may well be you...

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    Spin away my liberal friend.....

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    If they were cooperating fully, shouldn't the records not even be there and turned over?
     
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    Do your homework please... they have already been through this all earlier this year.... they have already went through the records...
     
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    Biden=Stalin? :roflol: :roflol:

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    "You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" — Donald Trump, September 2016
     
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    Millions of people starved to death because of Stalin. In the 1930s, he killed most of his Politburo. Truly, no one was safe.

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    "You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" — Donald Trump, September 2016
     
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    They only went through the records that Trump gave them, which may have given hints at missing documents, etc. But the search warrant will let us know how the FBI came about the information and by whom. The way the search warrant was conducted and why tells me that someone snitched on DJT and it was someone close. My guess is Mark Meadows is the person.
     
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    1) The creation of a massive underclass isn't the work of a political party, it's the work of the global elites. They simply utilise useful political idiots.

    2) Public schools are a 'luxury' of capitalism. There is nothing even remotely socialist about them, nor about roads. Anything provided to those who did not directly contribute to it, is a function of a commercial/capitalist relationship. It's ONLY that context which allows people to buy the goods and services they can't or won't provide themselves.

    3) Exactly the point. And the way they'll have more is to create a massive, dependent, underclass of serfs. When all your working and middle classes are rendered life-renting, landless, and excluded from small enterprise, they will be obliged to pay market price for every tiny element of their lives. They will have no choice. No capacity to opt out. The elites will own all the farmland, all the supermarkets, and all the residential property.

    4) Yes, and? They're playing a long game.

    5) "My boy Trump"? Dude, I'm a Lefty.
     
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    If you managed to have a commission, it would conclude he acted properly.
    Yes, bad form. Someone should be held to account.
    You can pin that on whom?
    We'll see. Someone may have ratted him out. A number of people who worked for him think he's unfit for high office.

    I think he totally screwed up our covid response.
    Do you have a specific grievance?

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    1) The Right want to see ordinary people self-reliant, and able to determine their own lives. They're don't want people disempowered, dependent, and helpless.

    2) Yes, and? Still nothing to do with socialism.

    3) Socialism can't exist at the state level. It's a mutual trust/obligation model, which falls apart as soon as you reach numbers beyond our capacity to know intimately and over a long period of time.

    4) Of course not. They're a 'luxury' paid for via the profits of robust capitalism.
     
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    I don't know what the righties are so worked up about.

    We all knew trump was going to jail eventually. We've watched him commit crimes against the nation on TV.
     
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    Just rambling now are we?
    I understand
     
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    Wrong, our interstate highways were primarily made so the military could quickly move men and material across country.
     
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    Yes, I know what roads are for. Driving around on.

    Still nothing to do with socialism.
     
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    It's not as simple as you seem to view it. Oppressing people is messy business and doesn't always follow a script. Stuff happens.
    I wonder why you would think a government-owned and government-operated K-12 schooling isn't a socialist enterprise.
    Roads are sometimes built and maintained by local government. Socialist. Collective production.

    They're often owned by local government but created and maintained by private contractors.

    Even roads built and maintained by local government don't produce all the equipment the government uses to facilitate production. It might be city gravel, but the gravel truck is produced by a business.
    I don't think it has to go that way as much as it has here.
    Perhaps. It may prove too difficult for elites to control society.
    You have some rather unorthodox ideas about socialism and collective production.

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    Fake News. If you clicked on the link it's a clip of the FBI speaking, the source is the head of the FBI. Haven't you bragged that you are some sort of a hot shot educator, yet, you actually think that if Red State links to the FBI director speaking that source is Red State and not the FBI director that is speaking?

    Does that mean that if I link you to First Amendment of the Constitution that I am then the source of the words in the First Amendment, not the Constitution?

    You can't possibly believe something this absurd, I think it's same to assume that you are simply out of defenses and reducing yourself to trolling.

    The cordial exchanges that preceded the Mar-a-Lago raid

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    "In June DOJ investigators met with Trump’s attorneys. Trump stopped by that meeting briefly with a friendly greeting to the investigators."

    Friendly handshakes all around ensued followed by Trump expressing to the DOJ investigators: “I appreciate the job you’re doing. Anything you need, let us know.” As they were amicably settling what belonged to who in the boxes of paperwork.

    "Five days later, Trump attorney Evan Corcoran received an email from Mr. Bratt, the chief of the Justice Department’s counterintelligence and export control section, who oversees investigations involving classified information."

    “We ask that the room at Mar-a-Lago where the documents had been stored be secured and that all the boxes that were moved from the White House to Mar-a-Lago (along with any other items in that room) be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice.”

    Mr. Corcoran wrote back, “Jay, thank you. I write to acknowledge receipt of this letter. With best regards, Evan.” And they promptly placed a larger lock on that door.

    "On June 22, the Trump Organization received a subpoena for surveillance footage from cameras at Mar-a-Lago. That footage was promptly turned over."

    From there, on Monday they showed up with 30 heavily armed agents and safe cracker, and the bumbling idiots even went through Melania's closets.

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    Biden's pathetic and increasingly desperate DOJ/FBI is "trying to interfere in the 2024 election."

    They are trying to claim that "this was just about retrieving some documents the investigators had already seen during a visit months earlier."

    'It’s hard to believe the FBI was so stupid they didn’t see any of this coming." It truly may be that though they are this arrogant and heavily armed that they actually are this dense. I think that "the FBI" may "be that out of touch with the real world."
     
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    interstate highways=socialism.
     
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    With all of the howling about a crooked former president being rightfully investigated, I think it's obvious which party is actually "Sovietized" at this point.

    I suggest that Republicans all across the country step up to de-Sovietize their party instead of allowing it to continue down this path to authoritarianism, which always begins with pernicious, anti-democratic lies spewed by a charismatic strongman figure who establishes a cult of personality through pseudo populism and vilification of all who stand in his way to gaining absolute power.
     
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    I believe you are hitting close to home. Many on this forum can only make jokes.
     
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    1) That's why it's a long game. It takes time to condition people out of self-reliance. But it's working beautifully, I'm sure you'll agree!

    2) Because a Govt can't be collectivist. They can be totalitarian states, or capitalist democracies, but not collectivist. Buying education for the masses, is a largess only afforded by capitalism.

    3) Of course it doesn't have to, but that's their desire. They would like us all bound to constant consumption at market rate, and that's the way to do it.

    4) They're controlling it very well, actually. Look around you. Are people increasingly being disenfranchised from small business, private property, and self-reliance?

    5) Not really. I have the same idea as every other 'orthodox' collectivist on the planet (which is about 80+% of humanity). The issue is that First Worlders have a warped understanding of what it is. They think it's free stuff.
     
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    Many on this forum ... Never mind. Don't need more trouble from the mods.

    Humor is a common way to deal with awful facts that are beyond someone's control to change. Watching one of the country's major political parties descend into authoritarianism is bound to drive some people to turn to humor.
     
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    Well, yes and no. The employers want to have enough employees, not competitors. Public schools are pressured to turn out employees.
    We're talking about collective production.
    There isn't a lot of trust in the public school system. It keeps going.
     

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