Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No but he has beeen persecuted by high level government officials who have opposed his Presidency from the getgo and were willing to work in cahoots with his political opposition in gross abuses of power to try and remove him.

    You don't know anything about the information and it's status or how "sensitive" it was especially being over 18 months old. And of course the fact that up until the moment he left office had the fully constitutional authority to declassify ANYTHING.

    So you are saying this search WAS to find evidence of election crimes?
     
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    You are denying the FBI used fake information and assertions to obtain FISA warrants against Trump associates and worked with the Clinton campaign to stop Trump and then remove him from office?
     
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    You have not seen the letter from the National Archives thanking them for their cooperation? When did they not cooperated and refused the NA and FBI access?
     
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    It's not for Trump to explain Garland and Wray and the FBI and their actions it is for THEM to justify and explain them..............the warrant and inventory will tell us little what we need is the affidavit they submitted to obtain the warrant. The question is WHY they suddenly went nuclear when they could have merely asked to come over and retrieve what it was they were specifically looking for.
     
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    Nope, that is just ur confusion.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    And what is it exactly am I confused about? Your specious declarations refute nothing I said.
     
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    Lol, yea right. So he could deny wrong doing with a heads up?
     
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    I've seen no evidence that they "worked with the Clinton campaign" in any capacity. And the FBI does not have the ability to remove a President from office. The main FISA warrant I'm aware of is Page's, which was well-warranted (pardon the pun).

    Meanwhile, you still have no evidence of your accusation here.
     
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    Everyone involved with the planning and supervision of this raid should be promoted and transferred immediately to the Peace Corps. ;-)

    https://www.peacecorps.gov/
     
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    ROFL

    Trump Won’t Oppose Release of Search Warrant
    Justice Department asks a judge to unseal the warrant FBI agents used to search the former president’s Mar-a-Lago home

    ...The former president late Thursday said on his social-media site that he wouldn’t oppose the release of the court documents, encouraging their “immediate release,” while adding he viewed the process as partisan.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/justic...o-search-warrant-11660245559?mod=hp_lead_pos1

    AGAIN it is NOT for Trump to explain and justify Garland and Wray and the FBI in their actions it is FOR THEM to do so.
     
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    They have to explain it . . . to a judge. Which they have done. Trump chose to make it public, though for some reason he refused to provide the warrant. Then the DOJ pushed to release the warrant to the public, which Trump seems for now to be okay with. If he doesn't change his mind about that, like he did with his tax returns, then it will likely be made public.
     
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    I can't help you lack of keeping up. The Page warrant, along with others, was based on fabricated claims and the purpose of the Russiagate fake investigation was to get him removed. And did you forget the FBI officials that were fired for it?
     
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    Protest Votes Matter.
     
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    They have to explain it to US the American people. Trump doesn't have the affidavit upon which the search was based and prompted. THAT is what we need to know. Garland's press conference yesterday was pure political hogwash.
     
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    Wrong; try again. All lawyers heard about the case say Trump can make the warranr public whenever he wants. He prefers not to at this stage because he wants to get maximum noise out of it, by crying politization, witch hunt etc...
     
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    If you are talking about the Steele dossier, the FBI never said they backed all of the dossier. Page had been under surveillance for YEARS before because of his contacts with Russian intelligence assets. And the investigation predates the Steele dossier.
     
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    No, they don't. It will be good if they do, but they have no such obligation.

    And now we see the next excuse.

    Trumpers: "Where's the warrant?!?!"
    Trump: (Could provide it, doesn't)
    Garland: "I'll give it to you."
    Trumpers: "Actually, we've changed our mind. That's not what we wanted. We want something else now."
     
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    Posters here have stated that Trump could not legally take classified materials to his home.
    In fact, he could do that while POTUS. The only issue is whether Trump could maintain classified documents in his personal possession after his presidency.
    In fact, former Presidents frequently do that. It is not illegal.
     
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    He worked WITH the FBI and it was fake all along as a means to get entry into the Trump campaign so they could surveille it.

    As the WSJ editorial board put it this morning

    "It’s nice to hear Mr. Garland say he personally signed off on the search. But it’s a little much to hear him lecture the country that it’s beyond the pale to criticize the FBI. After the Russia collusion fraud, the Steele dossier con, the misleading FISA requests for the Carter Page warrants, and the Robert Mueller whitewash of all of that, there are plenty of reasons for Americans to take a don’t-trust-but-verify attitude to the bureau. This isn’t disdain for the rule of law. It’s well-earned skepticism.

    By sanctioning the Mar-a-Lago search, Mr. Garland has broken a political norm that has stood for 232 years. He had better have enough evidence to justify it in the end, or he will have unleashed political forces and a legal precedent that Democrats as much as Donald Trump may come to regret."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/merric...-of-justice-11660254365?mod=opinion_lead_pos2

    Garland always was a political appointed hack and this further proves it. It is not for Trump to explain and justify his actions it is for HIM to do so.
     
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    In fact, Trump has publicly called for the release of the warrant.
     
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    He would defy a court order in doing so. You're not thinking through what it means for a Judge to seal a warrant, nor why it was necessary for the DOJ to file a "motion" to that court to unseal it.
     
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    FBI tactics during an investigation.
     
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    Trumps lawyers were not given a copy of the warrant or the affidavit.

    “Christina Bobb was one of the three attorneys for Trump who reportedly arrived on the scene Monday after FBI agents began to search the property. Bobb said after a brief back-and-forth with the agents that she managed to see the search warrant but was not allowed to see the affidavit that contains more details on why the search was permitted. Since the raid, which Trump himself revealed in a statement claiming he was the target of a political operation, there have been calls for him to release the warrant.”
    WASHINGTON EXAMINER, Trump lawyer claims Mar-a-Lago raid search warrant 'very' thin, By Ryan King, Breaking News Reporter, August 09, 2022.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/search-warrant-very-thin-trump-lawyer-claims

    Trump has demanded that the FBI release the warrant.
     

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