Why Do You Keep Believing

Haven’t watched much of Christopher Titus have you?

 

The Russians are not orcs pillaging and raping across Ukraine. That’s ‘Lord of the Rings.’ The Russians are under a microscope, if they dropped some litter it would be spotted! On the other hand, the Ukrainians are protected by the mass media and can do no wrong. What is really happening will come out later in various inquiries, but if you incorporate Nazi militias into your armed forces, don’t expect anything good to come from it. The Russians are now investigating the activities of the militia characters they’ve rounded up and in the not too distant future, expect some pretty gruesome stuff to emerge.

 

Apropos of nothing?

 

A prediction based on reality.

 

So if as you claim Amnesty International is to be believed 100% all of this is true as well.

Directly from AI website

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is an act of aggression that has unleashed the gravest human rights and refugee crisis in Europe since World War Two. Amnesty International is documenting serious violations of international humanitarian and human rights law, including the unlawful killing and injury of civilians, destruction of infrastructure, and blocking of desperately needed aid for civilians. Attacks on hospitals and schools, employing “surrender or starve” sieges on civilians, the use of banned weapons such as cluster munitions, and strikes on populated areas using inaccurate weapons may constitute war crimes

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Russia: Charging 92 members of Ukraine’s military with ‘crimes against humanity’ brazenly undermines fair trial rights

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Russian soldiers filmed viciously attacking Ukrainian POW must face justice

or maybe

Since the start of Russia’s war on Ukraine, Amnesty International has documented crimes under international law, like summary killings of captives by Russia-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine and extrajudicial executions of Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces

 

Who?

 

There will be war crimes on either side, no one will come out of this as the knight in shining armour. Some will be discovered, others will remain hidden. My point is that Ukraine is not immune from doing some dirty deeds of its own. If the UK was to be surrounded by Russian or Chinese navies and threatened, we would lash out exactly as the Russian’s have done.

 

The Russians have never been surrounded by NATO or anyone allied with them. Though I'll concede that fears of the big bad people from the west is a recurring (but unjustified) Russian fear.

 

NATO aggression is clear, also remember the North side of Russia is often cut off by ice, the west border of Russia is important and Moscow and a lot of the population is in the western part.

I'm not clear on who is right and who is wrong, just that the first step is to eliminate the lying.

 

NATO aggression is very clear.

 

The last time western armies advanced to Russian borders was 1941. Now tell me what happened then. Perhaps their fears are justified?

 

I was just talking with someone who said not to trust the Russians because of what they did in WW2 to the jews.

I'm having trouble finding trustworthy sources for the data, but it appears the worst happened in Poland and in Ukraine, which makes sense from the religious demography of those two countries.

So he was arguing that we should support the Ukraine against Russia because the atrocities the Ukraine committed in WW2 were in directly done by Russia.

 

Yes, when the former victims of the Soviet empire begged for protection from Russia, being nice to them was so very, very, aggressive.

Before Putin decided to destroy Ukraine, NATO was in a long, slow, decline.

Now, thanks entirely to Putin, there is a huge increase in military budgets, more countries want to be members of NATO, and we need to stop Putin before he invades NATO countries which sets off WW3.

That's entirely on Putin.

 

You hear a lot of that kind of nonsense on the Internet and forums. The Nazis who killed the Jews were actually Russians, but the Russians who stopped them have now become Nazis so they were the ones involved in the holocaust. It's just low information from the new-age Google community.

 

Which NATO countries is he going to invade then? Do you have access to information we don't? Perhaps NATO countries are now frightened they pushed a little bit to hard?

 

Putin is following the Russian imperial dream of controlling the choke points that can keep invading armies out.

Ukraine isn't one of the choke points, it's on the way to them. There's a bunch of NATO countries that comprise two of those choke points.

There is nothing secret about this, I just pay attention.

Point is, if he invades even one, we'll roll him up like a rug. At that point, he starts throwing nukes.

You likely think that wouldn't happen. Problem is, he's shot the messenger too many times, all he has is yes men, and most of what he hears is what he wants to hear.

Time to do your homework.

 

Our corrupt USA is pumping billions of dollars into corrupt Ukraine, what could go wrong?

 

How can you claim that using Ukraine as the battlefield for a proxy war between the US and Russia is being nice to the Ukraine?

How can you justify sending such huge amounts of weapons to Ukraine which borders Russia would not be regarded as a threat, when the US regarded the USSR sending missiles to Cuba as a threat to the US?

Anyway the Ukraine military has been wasted in this pointless war so now about half of the weapons sent there are being sold by Ukraine to other countries.

A total waste of human life and money.

 

So it's becoming apparent, you're a Russian shill. You've suddenly showed up and attempted to establish an air of superiority, which I saw through immediately. But now it's apparent your goal is to white wash the unprovoked Russian attack on Ukraine. You're obvious and your methods are thin as piss on a rock.

 

Yes, I’m a bot being paid loads of money (I wish) to write reality posts. It’s not about me, it’s about the topic. Keep on track.

 

Poland is the traditional invasion route to Russia. Poland is not being attacked, neither are any of the other former Eastern block countries.

After what the communists did in Eastern Europe, it’s perhaps not surprising they’ve not welcomed with open arms. But there again, Nazi Germany wasn’t exactly a model of propriety either. The difference is that Germany rolled over and agreed to be ruled by the EU and become a NATO playground. If Russia agreed to host gay march parades and let Wall Street in to plunder its economy, all this venom would disappear overnight.

 

I never said you were a bot. I believe you're a real person embedded to promote a false Russian argument.

I'm perfectly on track.

 

Putin, and his pals, are plundering their economy worse than Wall St.

The gap that has the West worried right now is the Suwalki gap, which is not far from Kalingrad. I think there are 3 NATO countries on the way.

There are other gaps, Putin may go for a different gap, which means Moldava might be next, in that case. My 2 cents is they are next.

When Putin tried a quick decapitation of Ukraine by attacking it from the North, that told us his ambitions had grown massively.

 

I’ve not been ‘planted’ by anyone. Stop being so paranoid. Are we all expected to read from the same script? It’s a forum, if you think I was a professional propagandist do you think I’d be spending time on a forum where messages disappear to the next page within in 24 hours? NATO has an appalling record of being used by the US during the past two decades. I comment on it and can understand Russia’s apprehension watching western armies approaching its borders as they did in 1941. The last time it happened it left an estimated 26 million dead and perhaps there’s a reason they’re cleaning out the 21st century Ukraine Nazis again.

 

What economy? Before Russia went in Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe. They’re so short of money the US and EU are sponsoring them. If Putin was going to attack Europe he’d have done so by now. He attacked from the North and South trapping the Ukraine army from both sides. Nothing remarkable about that.