Why Do You Keep Believing

To Long Didn't Read - Don't Give A S hit.
Which goes for this post too.

Yeah I forgot you're Russian. <- (means I've stopped reading your posts for this thread)

 

Oh right, thanks for clarifying that. I thought it was some kind of code you were using.

So I’m Russian then? I’ve got some good written English grammar skills for a foreigner then! Yet that’s been my point all along. People get ideas in their heads and before you know it, they’ve become facts. It’s why it’s difficult to debate with people who make their own reality. Never mind, I hope you've learned a bit on this thread.

 

OK, I did read that, and I couldn't agree more. You've got the idea in your head (or, more likely, are being paid to be here) to promote the idea that Putin was justified in attacking Ukraine. You're purpose is to change reality, that Putin is a long time aggressive thug, into he's a benevolent leader protecting his country. Rubbish!

Yes I've learned you like to put up a lot of BS without anything to back it up and then justify it as "your own" ideas.

done reading your posts in this thread for real this time.

 

Of course you read it or you wouldn’t be answering and you'll keep on reading them even if you don't reply.

These righteous belief led crusades are usually from the left leaning younger generation trying to change the world. They’re convinced they’ve discovered the truth and when it’s explained to them they’re simply repeating what they heard in the mass media which is someone else’s biased opinion, well, they get upset. When all else fails, they concentrate on the poster. If I was paid to write a couple of paragraphs on a forum I’m sure the payer would demand a bit more than that for their money.

Using reality is why I and others here sound so odd to those who follow the media with blind faith. In 2014 Putin stepped in to prevent the attacks on ethnic Russians by Neo-Nazi militias in the Donbass. Western politicians and NATO not only turned a blind eye to what was going on, they actively helped trained an armed them. It carried on for eight years and finally Putin said enough is enough.

If Mexico suddenly decided to ethnically cleanse Americans in their country and the US stepped in, I’d be equally supportive of the US. If a large fleet of Russian or Chinese navies approached the territory of the US, likewise, I’d be equally critical of that.

You shouldn’t take things so seriously. The current media led beliefs about Russia will end and it will all move onto something else. Perhaps Monkey pox will take its place as the new deadly virus that will wipe out humanity, or China and you’ll get a new cause to believe in.

 

Well, they are good for some comic relief. Most of the time, putin apologists aren't so blatant.

 

Oh hello, are you the next one in the tag team?

 

Germany no longer has concentration camps and Russia no longer has Gulags. That all ended decades ago. So when you hear that sort of nonsense, you know its belief based and you’re not going to be debating reality.

I’m all for freedom of speech, but that freedom today largely applies to those who follow the media line. Too much freedom produces the ideas that men in women’s clothes can get pregnant, or that drugs should be legalized. That’s not freedom, its stupidity and reflects the anarchy behind identity politics. Those with low information buy into it and they’re best left alone or just humoured.

 

Men with women's jeans can get pregnant, I heard that in school.

 

It's a well known fact on forums as well.

A little bit on beliefs.

I prefer alternative media. That’s because I already know what the mass media is going to tell me before I read it, whereas those that write for alternative media don’t have the luxury of links and third party opinions. We that do occasionally write for alternative media are forced to think and lay out arguments using reality and logic. We can’t just use a link and tell people they’re stupid if they don’t believe what the link says and if we did, we’d never get published. That’s why alternative media is so different to the mainstream.

I submitted an essay last week and it got 11K views in 24 hours. It took me a couple of hours to put together so it wasn’t some brilliant piece of work, but original content and people read that sort of stuff because they want explanations, not the usual tirade of belief based propaganda.

An example of beliefs is ‘Putin is a monster.’ If you trace that back it goes right back to the mainstream media about Iraq’s Saddam in 2003, followed by Libya’s Ghaddafi, then Syria’s Assad and now Russia’s Putin. It’s a phrase used for anyone who tries to abandon the petrodollar, or falls out with the west and is old news trotted out as and when required. The believers don’t get it because they’re not thinking, they’re repeating what they’re told and are jumping up and down and thinking they’ve discovered something new. It’s sad, but that’s life.

 

Umm, the cartel does kidnap and kill Americans.
We still respect their sovereignty. We handle business privately.

 

Very true Kris P. Many people think if they read it or heard it from the mainstream media that it's true.

We know the mainstream media lied in 2001, 2002, 2003 Etc. up to the present day, and every year in the past hundred years as well.

But people have a propensity for believing what ever it is saying right now.

I keep getting the: "but this time they are right".

And next year when they have been proven wrong yet again, people are a bit embarrassed and don't want to talk about it.

MSM stands for main stream mindlessness.

 

I'm glad RW media isn't afraid to make **** up to support their paradigm and pass it off as fact. It makes it so much easier to declare they're right and the left is wrong.

That's the difference between RW media and MSM, the rightie "Alternative Facts" don't have to be correct and can't be proven wrong, they exist in the vacuum of right wing universal acceptance. Kinda like crispies self proclaimed, but unsupported "opinions"; they're facts simply because he says they are.

Never being wrong in your own little vacuum makes it so easy to criticize the "MSM" that lives in "REAL" reality, where things are fallible.

 

The MSM is a constant source of motivation: someone in this country to focus our hate on and some other country to hate.

Sometimes they change too quickly to transfer my hate in the time available, like when they went from hating communism to hating Islam and then over hating Russia.

Once people have tired of the Ukraine crap, after we find out the MSM has been lying about Ukraine, they'll just switch over to some other nonsense and people will believe that for a year.

 

Right wing, left wing, moral relativism, beliefs … the MSM caters to everyone depending on their taste. There is good and bad, right and wrong; they’re not my opinions, they’re world views that existed for centuries before new-age subjective beliefs replaced reality.

Ask ten people for their opinion on any subject and you’ll get ten different answers and that’s how it should be. However, a large number of the replies will have come from the MSM and will seldom turn out to be correct because the MSM generally doesn’t do news, it does propaganda written by third party editorial staff paid to do it.

Facts are reality based. Beliefs are formed from opinions. For those with low information to begin with, the media is the go to source for information. Men don’t become women because they believe they are, vaccines didn’t cure the Covid flu as prophesized by politicians and the media and Ukraine isn’t winning a war its losing. As you say, when one belief fails another one quickly pops-up to replace it.

 

As of July 21, according to Right Biased "The Bulwark":

Ukraine Is Winning
"After the Russian military failed to take Kyiv in the opening weeks of their full-scale invasion of Ukraine and refocused, at least for now, on eastern Ukraine, they have made modest gains, while reports of Ukrainian casualties and alleged poor morale proliferated. Some even concluded that the Russians finally had momentum. Ten weeks later, it is again obvious that momentum favors the Ukrainians—and the Russians’ desperate attempts to mitigate the problem will only exacerbate it.

Case in point: British intelligence believes that Russia has lost over 50,000 men, more than a quarter of its original invading force, and the Russian military (or, more precisely, its mercenaries, the Wagner Group) is reportedly enlisting prisoners for reinforcement."

https://www.thebulwark.com/ukraine-is-winning/

Anyone the said vaccines "cure disease" mispoke or misrepresented what vaccines do. The COVID vaccine can't and never could "cure" COVID. BUT! The COVID vaccine does help, dramatically, keep people from getting COVID.


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Anyone that disparages the efficacy of the COVID vaccine is doing society a grave disservice.

Right Wing interpretation of transgender people is harsh and inaccurate.

What Is Transgender?

Transgender is a general term that describes people whose gender identity, or their internal sense of being male, female, or something else, does not match the sex they were assigned at birth.
According to the National Center for Transgender Equality, there are about 1.4 million transgender people in the United States, who fall into several categories. A transgender woman was labeled as male at birth but has the gender identity of a female. A transgender man was assigned female sex at birth but identifies as male. Some transgender people don’t identify with one gender exclusively. Their gender identity may combine both female and male elements, for instance, or they may not feel like either gender. These transgender people are often described as being “non-binary.”

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-is-transgender

It's hard for a hero-sexual person, such as myself, to wrap their head around the mindset of people that aren't. But my personal resolution is we ALL live on a shrinking planet, and the best way for ALL of us to accept one another without putting our values on others. My philosoply has been, for a long time, "what three people and their dog do behind closed doors is NONE of my business and "I" don't want it to be. Live and let live; Do onto others as you would have them do on to you ... very basically ... go along - get along.

There's opinion and FACT, you're welcome to your opinion, but you can't make up your own facts and function successfully. Which, IMHO, is why we, as a society, are presently so dysfunctional.

 

Unknowingly perhaps, you’ve just proved my point.

 

You didn’t write what you said in that post above, you wrote what someone else said. There was no thinking behind it, you simply copied it and assume it’s factual without any real explanation of your own.

What British Intelligence says (or Zelensky, or NATO) or anyone else is immaterial. Ukraine are losing and the only ones who say they’re not will be promoted by the MSM. You didn't expect a government agency to go against the government did you?

The covid injections did not stop passing on the virus, but yes, they were free at the point of delivery. However, the government spent huge sums of money buying them for you and you’ll be paying that back in your taxes for the next ten years. Stand by for an increase in taxes in all the countries whose governments told you vaccines were free.

Transgender is an opinion, it’s a mental state in which the believer believes they are the wrong sex. There’s nothing right wing about that. There’s nothing scientific about it either. If I believe I’m Micky Mouse it doesn’t mean I am. I too am all for things behind closed doors, but not brought out into the public and especially not taught to children as a lifestyle choice.

The dysfunctional society you now criticize only came about when people starting believing instead of thinking.

 

Has anyone noticed Ukraine and the Covid hysteria are now dying down? That means something new is coming to take their place. We don’t know what it will be, but it’s guaranteed to be designed to produce the same hysteria as the other two. Keep you on your toes, keep you cheering.

This guy explains it for you without me having to go on about it. This is alternative news, it questions, it asks you to question, it makes you think and not simply believe. That’s what’s sadly lacking. Listen to him and learn from him and eventually all this transgender, political deities come to save us and deadly virus nonsense will clear from your heads.

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You need therapy to adjust to the reality that you are, deep inside, in your mind a mouse. And NHS treatment to help transition your appearance. And then you can join the rest of us mice.

 

It’s mind-numbing. How on earth did we get to this stage? They closed down many of the psychiatric wards to save money and let these unfortunates into the streets and we’re supposed to cheer this on as mainstream normal? Who let children watch this sort of thing and teach them it’s just people being themselves? And then we complain we’re living in a dysfunctional society.

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