FBI seizes privileged Trump records during raid; DOJ opposes request for independent review: sources

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah now Rand Paul is asking to undo the Espionage Act :)

    https://www.axios.com/2022/08/14/rand-paul-espionage-act-repeal
     
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    And you have all the knowing I take it?
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm hoping it takes years before going before the courts (and ultimately the SC). That would mean Trump will potentially be the POTUS changing the game. Then it will be a matter of impeachment and that's only possible if the Democrats control Congress.
     
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  4. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Is this why you came up with an attack rather than logic? That’s not like you.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    In some cases, yes, it's just that simple :)

    Every President has left with documents, what the left is trying to promote is the ex-President has nuclear secretes ;) This is just a rerun of 2019 DMC bullshit :)
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    In other words, wait three years and DNC history has like a ONE year freshness date and then they purge it from their memories :)
     
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    Sincere question - will you feel that way if it turns out that the documents contain TS nuclear information?
     
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  7. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holding the agencies of the government accountable for ensuring equal justice means more to me than the fallout of documents they had no grave concern about seizing but months after learning of their possible existence. A rogue politicized Intel agency is more of a threat.
     
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  8. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    yeah… Just like the Russian dossier was real and there was Russian collusion, and the Hunter business dealings and lap top were all fake just like the news sources you like told you right?
     
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    Once again, you make assumptions in favor of the Orange Stain.

    BTW, did his attorneys not assure the DOJ that all the classified materials have bee returned in June ?

    "At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.

    The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division."

    Arrogance and Ignorance levels in Dirty Donnie are at an all-time high. In his supporters too.
     
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  10. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're assuming I'm interested in defending Trump. You're mistaken, or simply don't want to comprehend my point.
     
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    The FBI made it incredibly easy to do so. You can blame the FBI for handing Trump a political score on a silver platter.
     
  12. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    And why would a lawyer sign a paper of that magnitude without knowing that. So that leads me to believe they were in fact all declassified and at the extreme possibly planted
     
  13. fullmetaljack

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    You haven't made any point.

    If you want to make the case for a "rogue" agency, you're going to need more than the crying and wailing of the Orange Stain and his allies.
     
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    Much more likely that the signer was just as ignorant and arrogant as Dirty Donnie.

    No one has produced any record of anything being declassified, so that's off the table.
     
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    Enjoy your day.
     
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    Or, the FBI is flat out lying.
     
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    That sometimes happens when you follow the law. Can't be helped.
    On the other hand, to Trumpers who are blind in both eyes when it comes to their Orange Stain, no facts will convince them their boy is an even bigger crook since Nixon. People who think and comprehend and vote are repulsed by the Orange Stain .
     
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    I don’t blame them for protecting our classified intel. Silly that you do.
     
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    1. Steele Dossier confirmed a lot of known issues between T**** and Russia, even if not everything panned out..
    2. There was proven Russian collusion, by 2 different independent sources
    3. I don't bother tracking anything coming from the "Hunter laptop" because it came from Rudy. I know he's probably in trouble for tax evasion, so that should give you a warm tingly in your jock..
     
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    If it turns out to be accurate, then Trump made his own bed :(
     
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    Well at least you prove selectivity is part of the deduction ;)
     
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    Without even seeing what they gathered, cart before the horse as they say ;)
     
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    If they were all declassified, you would have no problem in making them public and effectively turning them over to Russia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, ISIS ...
    Right? If the documents aren't classified, anyone can look at them.

    Are you OK with that?
     
  24. Joe knows

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    No one has produced any proof they weren’t declassified either. Why won’t they allow for an independent review of said documents?
     
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    No one needs to "prove" a negative. That's not how logic works. That's not how our legal system works. Don't be a petulant child. Or do and be ignored.
    Produce the proof the docs were declassified.
    Right now, the fact is that classified documents were found and taken , as per the inventory. That's a fact.

    Independent review ? What does that even mean in this context ? Due process is being observed and IF there is a record of these documents being declassified then it will be produced by the National Archives not some sycophant of the Orange Stain.
     

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