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Nothing in there about classifying documents, at all.

 

A few pages over where he keeps his guns

 

Section #?

 

The part that says vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as

Still not getting through huh.
Only the president sets the boundaries on classifications. He makes all the rules.
You can either educate yourself or just stay blinded by your leftist hate for Trump.
I don't think anyone cares which one you choose.

 

So either
Obama falsified his entire EO setting all boundaries on all classifications as ordered by the president and everyone just fell for it
And the SCOTUS falsified their assertions in their own document
OR
You're just being obtuse because of some generated blind hate for Trump keeps you form believing anything other than what you want. .

Either way, it doesn't change over 200 years of precedent.

Now its your turn.
Show me any government document that states anything I have stated is untrue.
And just an FYI, You opinion doesn't count
I'll wait right here for ya

 

Yes and Obama set those rules in the EO. Trump didn’t change those rules. So that EO is what applies. Even to trump.
Which section of that EO permitted trump to declassify the documents he took to Mar a Lago?

 

There is another alternative you will never consider and that is...you are posting rubbish.

 

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
We have a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, on steroids.

 

Obama set the rules and was able to write that EO because he was president and the Constitution impowers him to make all laws governing classifications.
Which means those powers are ONLY vested in him.

Trump was the president and those powers transferred to him the day he took office.

How is this still so far over your head?

 

Thats your argument now?
The EO and the SCOTUS are all fake?
You're out of excuses.
You lose

 

The president issued an EO that applied to everyone. Including the president.
And the EO was never changed. Trump could have changed it but he didn’t.
So that EO applied to everyone. Including him.

What section/subsection/paragraph would permit trump to declassify those documents, on a whim, without following any procedure and without telling anyone.

I have looked. I haven’t found it. Maybe it’s there but I haven’t found it.

I won’t ask you to provide the section again because you seem to be allergic to answering questions. But I will say that your posts on this matter show that you are profoundly out of your depth. Profoundly.

 

Whether or not Trump had authority to declassify it isn't the biggest issue. I can't find anywhere in the constitution that empowers a former president to keep government documents, classified or not.

 

I'm really getting sick of this compiled ignorance. If you even read the damn document you would have found,

Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;

(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and

(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section.

(c) Delegation of original classification authority. (which is the President)

No go pester someone on facebook because you need proof that Police have arresting powers.
Your claims are a joke but your willingness to stay uneducated because Trump hurt your feelings in even a bigger joke.

 

Hows this for rubbish

Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;

(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and

(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section.

(c) Delegation of original classification authority. (which is the President)

You all caught up now or is the document from the US White House all rubbish as well.
Whats next?
You want to argue police don't have arresting powers?

 

That’s classification.
Now look for the declassification authority. Hint: it’s in a different section of the EO.

 

Alternative facts are not knowledge, they’re just lies.

 

Diplomacy and tact are not your strong suit ........are the??

 

Can't find a link yet but Aussie TV just showed John Bolton saying that Humpty's claim of de-classifying documents is 'almost certainly a lie,' and there would have to be a record of it.

 

What a surprise. Of course it’s a lie.

 

Yes, but nice to see Bolton calling it.

 

Yes, I'm afraid his interpretation might be right, unfortunately. However that interpretation is disputed/challenged by a number of lawyers.

But if it sticks, not only dems are in an awfully dangerous situation, but also the repubs and all americans and the whole country.

Imagine that: POTUS having all latitude to do anything he fancies with the country's highest classified secrets; that would be a ludicrous, potentially suicidal, rule.

Any POTUS!? Any POTUS!? Even TRUMP!!! OMG! OMG! OMG!

S O S S O S S O S

I'd still hope it wouldn't exonerate Trump though: after all, his many crimes deserve him to be charged some day. I'd still doubt that, despite that atrocious rule, he was legally remaining in possession of these documents, declassified or not.

 

I studied both links @Condor060 provided, the navy vs. Egan and Obamas executive order.
The navy ruling appears to address the presidents role in allowing someone access to classified content, but not declassification.
Obama's order lays out a process that even the President must adhere to.
I doubt Trump had it documented properly according to the EO.

 

. "You want to ask questions? Show me your papers!"

 

You can be right. But ...

If the President declassified documents about an encounter with aliens, everybody was entitled to keep those documents at home!

The real point here is if there are written US laws stating a procedure for the President to declassify documents.
If there are no written laws about this ... a President can declassify documents in private [without stamps, notes ...].

This is the real point.

 

If I posted that on FB, I would be put into FB's prison. Probably the same for Twitter.