Trump's lie that the FBI 'planted evidence'

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  1. Rampart

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    the other one does not seem to know that he is not president.
     
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    Big diff, when the one that's suppose to know DOESN"T :)
     
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    yep! Nailed it!
     
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    Nonsense, there can be many different reasons for doing anything..
     
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    There could be one of many reasons, but there is only one actual reason.

    If you are throwing out 10 reasons to your wife about the lipstick on your collar, it is because you are not telling the truth.
     
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    Why would anyone assume that the FBI did not plant evidence? The FBI is a very corrupt organization.
    Surely you know that.
     
  7. Zorro

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    So you've memorized phrases to throw out there without really understanding them? How cute. General warrants are unconstitutional in our constitutional Liberal Democracy. That's why the lying thieving FBI had to give the passports back. While you ponder this mystery please be assisted by my red highlighting of the key point. You're welcome.
     
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    Who is there to stop the FBI from taking things not on the list?
     
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    How do you know he lied? Show your proof.
     
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    Gee, yet the lying thieving FBI was forced to return his stolen passports. What a fuggin' mystery for you now, eh? Oh, and you got to deploy another of those memorized phrases you picked up from the cop shows? What a day you're having.
     
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    Did they inventory every single document they siezed?
     
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    We will have to see the "evidence" to determine what has been planted.
     
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    Do you deny that the long history of criminal misconduct of the FBI and its agents is a matter of public record?
     
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    Well, good for you, first you feigned ignorance, now you admit it and claim that forging evidence in order to illegally spy on the President of the United States is perfectly acceptable given the target. Which brings us back to the original point which you first greeted with feigned innocence of the FBI's duplicity. Why would I not view them as capable of planting evidence when they lie, leak, and manufacture evidence without hesitation? If they did get caught planting evidence why doesn't the "given the target" line you used above work just as well for planting evidence as it does for forging evidence?

    Bottom line, you have no objection to their acting lawlessly because it's in service of the political goals of the DNC. You think that because these vicious liars are currently working toward your goals that you have them under your control. You don't. They'll turn on you as soon they decide to. It's they that are heavily armed thugs, not you. You're playing with fire, they need to be brought back under the Rule of Law. In your gut you know it, I'll leave you now to your pretenses.
     
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    Oh SURE! They ACCIDENTALLY stole it. Then they ACCIDENTLY "forgot" to list it on the receipt. Then they falsely DENIED having it. Then it turned out they, big surprise, were lying the whole time and while the Lying Fake News Media was spinning up the lies to defend these liars, they admitted they stole it and returned it. Just like Trump knew they would. He dropped them face down into their own crap, beautifully.

    These are the same heavily armed lying clowns that claimed that they had to search Melania's drawers for nuclear secrets. No one with an IQ above their height in inches buys their crap anymore.

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  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    You missed it:

    “Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be alone,” he wrote, “without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hopefully not, ‘planting.’” ---Donald Trump

    And the right wind media ran with it, repeating the lie over and over and over again.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not true

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/.../trump-fbi-raid-security-camera-b2143661.html
     
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    That's like 82% of all democrats.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're making an assumption. Let's wait for the facts to surface.
     
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    Of course he lied. Why would he suddenly start speaking the truth. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is a conspiracy where he is the victim. I've never seen such whiner in my life.

    All three of them, - US, Russian and North Korean :p

    They have been returned since the FBI has no use for them.
     
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    Hell, Patricio! This whole thread(s) consists mostly of assumptions. Don't try to dismiss mine while ignoring those who attack Trump.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    No, I do not know that. But, I've known a few FBI, in my 70 years. Years ago, I was a bartender in a bar in LA where a few of them, plus the local Ramparts division Homicide division, hung out, I worked there for almost 2 years and got to see them up close, and overall, they are hard working, dedicated public servants. I was a lefty in the late 70s ( and I later became a repub moderate in the 80s) and don't think I didn't question them on these points. After time, they won me over. Moreover, they tipped better than most folks, that I noticed, too. Once, the boss fired me because I screwed up the balancing of the register's total with the cash count and I did it one too many times, I'm bad at math. They weren't like the modern digital machines where you can easily correct errors punching the keys. The cops & FBI guys demanded the boss to hire me back, and he did. The work of a few rogues and the long since passed years of Hoover do not prove your point. In every sector of life, there are bad apples, and it is the partisan who will toss about the baby with the bathwater, when it's convenient. I believe in objectivity, the right, apparently, doesn't. These guys work hard to protect you and me from bad people, and what to they get for their dedication? Petty partisans barking their bullshit, every day, all day long, and I swear, it's sickening what the right has become. They used to be the bastions of law and order, backing our institutions --- it was Republicans on whose integrity brought us the resignation of Nixon, and look at them now --- now they are a petty bunch, trafficking in innuendo , rumours and lies and they are destroying democracy and American institutions like I've not seen in my entire life. It really started going downhill when Gingrich became speaker during Clinton. It's a sad commentary on the decline of this nation and fanning the bellows of ill winds is Donald Trump while his minions follow him like lemmings over a cliff. Truth and facts be damned, all that matters is power above country. Objectivity will not forward their agenda. And what is their agenda? 1. To take away a woman's right to abortion. #2, Tax cuts for rich people. #3, bloated military spending. #4more laws restricting access to the ballot disproportionately in poor neighborhoods and college areas. That appears to be what 'small government' to which they only pay lip service, means when it's translated to policy.

    Anyone with that kind of agenda is not in full possession of their faculties, nor will I trust their ability to evaluate reality and I sure as hell won't take your word it.

    No, I do not know that.
     
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    I make reasoned conclusions where it is logical, but on a simple thing like that, we wait for the facts to surface
     
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    You do you, and let others do them. Very simple standard to follow.
     

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