THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Thanks for the laugh!

    FOX is MOSTLY fake news. I don't watch it except for an occasional Tucker comment on YouTube. Don't watch OAN.

    Try try again.

    Tell me, being since you're such the expert on all things Russia and 'the ukraine', just how many times have you been to Russia and ukraine??

    I'll patiently wait while the crickets do what they do.

    As a consolation prize....here ya go:

    https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/

    ^^^^^^ do you disagree with real Jews?

    Snip:
    "Note: beginning in 2014, when the Maidan uprising brought a new government to Ukraine, the country has been erecting monuments to Nazi collaborators and Holocaust perpetrators at an astounding pace — there’s been a new plaque or street renaming nearly every week. Because of this, the Ukraine section represents an extremely partial listing of the several hundred monuments, statues, and streets named after Nazi collaborators in Ukraine."
     
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    define “battle”. This war has been fought by Ukraine defensively and asymmetrically, the tactics of which have been unquestioningly successful in chopping up Russias army from General down to private all the while holding them off for months. Land, villages and towns have unquestioningly changed hands so on what basis do you define winning a battle and have you never heard of the concept of Pyrrhic victories? All Russia has are Pyrrhic victories, come at the terrible cost where their operational capacity is virtually gone and now they are ones on defense using outdated and obsolete weapons, unpaid, badly trained and demoralized troops also known as cannon fodder.

    Hell, Putin just axed another bunch of generals. I would think that would be a sign to you that whatever definition you have of “battle” is as antiquated and worthless as the machinery Russia is now trotting out from deep storage. Listening to you, he should be giving them all medals for a job well done. Lol.


    And there we have it. You don’t have a military argument for Russian success so you literally claim to know it’s objectives at every stage of the war in order to deflect from any counter argument of their obvious and epic failures. Unless I am speaking to Putin or one in his very close circle of circle jerkers, there is precisely zero honesty you can have in making this statement, thus making it, by definition, BS. Stop BSing.
     
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    Here in the states that's called libel, and if an organization commits it, your rich.
    So no that doesn't happen here often or the organization doesn't last long. Credibility is a thing. It's most likely the same in Australia, so you can be unreasonably paranoid about believing what news you see on TV, but at some point someone's getting paid if they arnt telling the truth. The here then gone social media and websites are a tell tell sign that they are spreading misinformation.
     
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  4. UntilNextTime

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    Good on ya. Nobody loves you. :(
     
  5. UntilNextTime

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    You're forgetting to mention western media and the Ukraine military and every other puppet that supports Ukraine's Government/military.
     
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    Well, good for them. Drinks all around. 100 Russians for 1000 Ukrainian military, that's a good ratio.
     
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    I don't "unreasonably" or am "paranoid". I am very aware of the bullshit purveyed by western MSM. There is a difference. In particular the narratives they convey via a scripted report.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no report of any Ukrainian casualties since it was a missile strike.
     
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    Why do you think only "puppets" support the Ukrainian govt. and military?
     
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    The here-and-gone media don't need to hang around. As soon as there is truth to be uncovered, they're there. Once the dust has settled, yes, they are gone. But for legacy media that lie and create false narratives for profit, they're in it for the long haul. As they are tools for the globalist who have them purvey all that bullshit and give people like yourself the opinion you have now. If you're wondering where my opinion is made, it doesn't include MSM.
     
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    Who controls our governments? If you think they make their own decisions and the directions they steer their country, you're poorly mistaken. This is why I call them puppets. They need someone else's hand (globalists) to steer their course.
     
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    I was generally speaking.
     
  14. UntilNextTime

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    @Dayton3
    If you want a prime example, take a look at the Lima Declaration. That there is a real shitdeal. No one would have voted for that, that's why it was kept hush-hush.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Why is our fault that Putler invaded Ukraine? Why is it our fault if his regime overreacts and "brings the rest of the world down" with it rather than accept defeat in a war they never should have started?
     
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  17. UntilNextTime

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    I already had.

    Here is an article for you to read.

    The demise of the nation-state
     
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    You welcome. I hope I make you laugh as much as you are making me laugh.

    OK, I am trying - who is your source information?

    I never visited Russia, Ukraine or Japan, but I can read newspapers in few languages about these countries. And about Russia - I worked in the US with many Russian and long time ago I lived with Russian girlfriend, so I have some idea about Russia.

    Yes, I believe it. During WWII many Ukrainians collaborated with Nazi Germany and murdered in a very brutal way Jews, Poles, Russians, Czechs and others.
    Today in Ukraine there are many monuments and streets dedicated to these criminals, but - does it means todays Ukrainians are Nazis?
    In the US we have monuments and street names dedicated to people who supported slavery, does it means US supports slavery?
    If you know history of Ukraine - these Ukrainian leaders who ordered to who murdered Jews, Poles, Czechs and others and to collaborate with Nazi Germany where founding fathers of Ukraine. So the question is if today Ukrainian 'Nazis' support the same racist ideology as their revered leaders? Do they support Jewish president? I know that same Israeli Jews who were born in Ukraine returned to Ukraine to fight against Russians, some even join Azov Battalion.
    IMHO today Ukrainian 'nazis' are not nazis, they are right wing fascist, similar to many groups in the US and Russia. The genius of Russian propaganda is to connect Ukrainian WWII collaboration with Germany with today Ukraine, forgetting that if was Russia who TOGETHER WITH NAZI GERMANY in 1939 started WWII attacking Poland.
     
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    Define ‘battle’? You don’t know what a battle is? Look at any current map of Russian forces and tell me they’re not slowly advancing. The Ukrainians aren’t winning, they’re hanging on by their fingertips and getting beaten in every Russian advance.

    The objective of Russia was to create a buffer zone in the east from day one. That’s what this war was all about, not taking the whole of Ukraine or invading Europe. Ukraine has been losing from day one, it’s just a matter of time before NATO dump them completely.
     
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    Don't be surprised if there's a military coup against Zelensky in the not too distant future.
     
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    Hunting nazis that run bioweapon labs, drug, weapon and human/sex slavery trades and money laundering for the US Deep State and to cripple the cabal's money making machine was also Russia's/Putins aim.
     
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    You forget to include the fact that the CIA assisted in the creation of mobs like the Right Sector and the Azov Bn etc. Which are full of nazis with nazi mentalities and ideologies. Russia attacking Poland? Who occupied Poland in WWII? Russia joined in so as to stop Germany from waltzing into Russia at that front.
     
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    so you can’t even define simple terms that you’re ignorantly bandying about. Color me shocked. Define the word that you’re using. It’s your chosen word. Define it. Shouldn’t be hard, especially for someone claiming clairvoyance over Putins mind. Lol.

    nope sorry repeating made up BS doesn’t make it magically not BS. You are not Putin. You are not any of his generals or advisors. You are not Russia. Stop claiming that you are.
     
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    This is why Ukraine wins!


    An absolutely awesome group of guys. :applause:
     
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    Pooteen must be stopped. Otherwise Ukraine is just the beginning. Nobody wants a "ruZZkie world" except him.

    Btw: Putin youth protest in front of US and UK embassies to stop sending weapons to Ukraine. They are concerned about dead and maimed ruzzian soldiers
    https://twitter.com/abnyn1/status/1559637088122945537

    Why doesn't anyone tell these idiots that ruzzian occupiers don't belong in Ukraine?
    :(
     
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