DOJ opposes making public details in Mar-a-Lago search warrant's probable cause affidavit

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  1. Hey Now

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    Well, you are going to get your wish, you know, criminals like Trump and the rule of law. He might get pardoned however but he shouldn't.
     
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    Yeah, that's one thing that worries me. If he does end up convicted, the next Republican president will pardon him. They'll probably even run on pardoning him.
     
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    Yeah, you know damn well they don't want that info made public...lol
     
  4. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Or, there is no informant and the FBI is lying and has fabricated evidence.

    If there is a CI, he will have to testify, anyway.
     
  5. Hey Now

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    Humm, the run on part I had not considered but good point.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    So did the FBI have a warrant to engage in this surveillance a former President? Have someone undercover in his home sneaking through things to see what they could find?
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    And if trump is charged that’s when he’ll find out.
     
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    Who said they had someone undercover?
     
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  9. Reality

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    This isn't weird. The affidavits remain sealed during an ongoing investigation. They are revealed to the defense in the discovery process once charges are filed, and confrontation of witnesses at trial applies.
     
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    Or your investigation involves further warrants and other things like them, and showing your cards before call is foolish.
     
  11. Reality

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    That's not what having a chilling effect on other witnesses means. I would suspect they assume he'll bribe or extort/blackmail the person in question.
     
  12. The Mello Guy

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    Oh hell dox them and his supporters will harass them. Ask Vindman
     
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    Your projections are rarely if ever right. I guess we'll see.
     
  14. hawgsalot

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    Could we get him charged before you fantasize about another Rep President Pardon him. I mean our foundation used to be innocent until proven guilty. Can you at least wait until he's actually charged? This is exactly why this is so divisive. Not only are you assuming guilt, your assuming charges, that's very dangerous because he's simply your political opposite.
     
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    I don't think an active FBI agent can be placed inside of Trump's inner circle without running into legal hurdles (as you suggest), but an informant usually presents no legal problems unless he was being paid by the FBI.
     
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    Biden's fingerprints are all over this, I mean Obama's fingerprints.
     
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  17. Hey Now

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    Freudian slip or did you mean predictions?
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And he will lose if he does. Though that will not prevent him or you from starting a civil war.
     
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    As you noticed, yes, your projections and predictions are rarely right.
     
  20. Hey Now

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    Oh, so you have reduced your so called debate to flaming now, lmao, that's what happens when you have no legit position to posture. It's always the other guy's fault.
     
  21. hawgsalot

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    Now you're the only one who gets to make observations and statements? Why am I not shocked. I stand by what I said.
     
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    Doesn't have to be inner circle ANYONE working or living in that house. If they engaged in an undercover surveillance where is THAT warrant and probable cause? And they were in a locked room. And it doesn't have to be a "legal" problem. It's an abuse of power problem.
     
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    The FBI, it was human intelligence. Do you think they were wearing an FBI badge and hat saying Surveillance Squad? If Trump knew this was an FBI agent keeping them under watch then why doesn't the AG come clean on who it was and why they were there? Do you think Hillary or Obama or Biden got them in their houses after they left office?
     
  24. Hey Now

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    What you said was nonsensical flamebait, feel free to stand anywhere near it, it 's still going to be nonsensical flamebait deflection.
     
  25. Andrew Jackson

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    Who cares?
    THIS Thread is about Trump!
    Not Hillary, Obama, or Biden...
     
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