Florida Court Says Teen Not "Mature" Enough for Abortion

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Florida appeals court decided to uphold a lower court's ruling that a pregnant 16-year-old had not shown she was "mature" enough to be able to decide to terminate her pregnancy.

    The teen, who is described as "parentless" in court documents, has been petitioning the state court system to allow her get an abortion without the consent of a parent or guardian, which is required under state law. She is under the care of Florida's Department of Children and Families.

    Florida court rules pregnant 16-year-old not 'mature' enough to have an abortion (nypost.com)

    Well, maybe the court is right. Maybe this particular child is not mature enough to really be making an informed choice about this decision. There is the possibility the girl might have regrets later. And, after all, this child would be making a choice concerning the fate of someone else who is unable to give their consent.
     
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    NO, she wouldn't be involving anyone else....trolling ;)
     
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    The government decided she is mature enough to be a parent, but not mature enough to have an abortion..........Florida is devolving into a true authoritarian State.

    She is 16, so anyone younger that that ill also be forced to give birth.
     
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    Dude - the teen girl is deemed, "not mature enough," to get an abortion ... but yet mature enough to be a mother?

    Wholly hell. What kind of moronic court ruling is that.

    Hey kid - you're not mature enough to drive a car, but here are the car keys, go have fun ...
    Hey kid - you're not mature enough to drink, but we want you to run this bar ...
     
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    But she is “mature” enough to parent a child? What are they going to do - force her to have the baby, then like the Catholic Church in Ireland take the baby and sell the baby for their profit?
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Geesh, you act like she is going to have to be a mother. It's called adoption.

    And she kind of already is a mother. (The fetus was at 10 weeks gestation)

    Apparently the girl lives with a relative and had another legal guardian. Maybe that relative, or that legal guardian could adopt the child.
     
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    Why don't YOU adopt the child - that way the 16 year old KNOWS that the child will be ... oh, hell ... let's not pretend. YOU aren't going
    to adopt the child, but YOU have no trouble forcing a child to have a child that you, yourself, wouldn't take care of.
    You're just going to wave your hand and pretend it all works out because for you, it will. Because YOU have no skin in this game - but
    you will have no problem back-seat driving this girl's life.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's not forget who is sitting in the back seat.


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    ^ click here
     
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    Morons who will never have to actually drive the pregnancy car...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She'll undoubtedly want to be pregnant at some point. The issue isn't really her not wanting to be pregnant. It's mostly just she doesn't want to be pregnant now.

    Oh, and wouldn't it be great if that baby who came along at an inconvenient time just "disappeared".
     
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    Oh! So it will be like what the Catholic Church did in Ireland with the forced adoptions?
    https://theconversation.com/amp/ire...on-system-marked-by-secrecy-and-trauma-160897
     
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    At 16 you have to ask why the father is not up on a charge and who exactly is the father
     
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    Yet she is mature enough to be forced to be a mother?

    Forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies is wrong
     
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    No it is an intrusive government because at 16 this girls chance of having a potentially lethal complication of pregnancy is much much higher
     
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    Oh yes, the good old "rape" argument. Less than one percent of these females got raped, and because of that they all need to be allowed to end their pregnancies.
    99 fetuses terminated just so we can terminate 1 of them that was conceived through rape.

    Well that wouldn't apply here, would it? This girl was 16, almost 17 years old, and the fetus was already at 10 weeks. How did the fetus get to 10 weeks if it was rape? They would have checked for signs of pregnancy earlier if they knew she had been the victim of a sexual assault.
    No, it wasn't rape.

    The fetus was 10 weeks old. This girl waited too long.
    The judge made the right call.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's still not terrible. She was almost 17.
    Statistically the safest time for a female to have a baby is between the ages of 17 and 26.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, she was a mother. In what way do you claim pro-lifers were forcing her to be a mother in a way she wasn't already?
     
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    Please, I have a greater knowledge in relation medical complications of pregnancy than you have displayed.

    Do you have research or a citation to back your stance? ( and this is me who can access a medical library asking)
     
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    No she is is only a POTENTIAL mother. Sort of the difference between playing at driving a car online and actually getting behind the wheel…….on a highway…….in a racing car……in south east Asia
     
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    Again where are your citations? Wait, don’t tell me…….lifeshitenews?? The far right Catholic site?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why, because 'out of sight, out of mind' ?

    "If I can't see my baby, I'm not a mother"

    Does abortion really prevent a woman from having a child? Or does it just kill that child?

    And what exactly is it that "makes her a mother"? (I mean, you know, if she doesn't have to keep the baby)
     
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    Well, it would be so much better to just harvest its organs and sell those for profit, wouldn't it?
     
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    So….Where is that happening?
     
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    No because the baby is yet to be born and she might still have a miscarriage, a still birth, become critically unwell etc etc etc
     
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    That makes no sense at all. Being born is not when the baby comes into existence. And you seem to assume the unborn baby could die at any time due to miscarriage, so long as it is inside the womb. That is not really how it works. Plus, even a baby outside of the womb could die due to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. (Kind of a like a "miscarriage" outside of the womb, isn't it?)

    The risk of miscarriage by 10 weeks gestation is only 0.7%.

    To put that into perspective, the baby will have a higher chance of later dying from suicide or illicit drug overdose during its lifetime than it will of dying in the womb.
     
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