COVID Vaccine Research

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  1. AlpinLuke

    AlpinLuke Well-Known Member

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    SARS-COV2 exists ... [the virus, Covid-19 is the disease].
    About the effect on the population it depends on which population.
    In Italy even during lockdown [in "red zone"] towns were full of persons going everywhere.
    It was enough to avoid the center ...
    I cannot talk about myself: I'm an operator of Civil Protection, so that when I was not working I was around giving a hand.

    But my impression is that [as usual] Italians found a way to carry on.

    About preventing infection: no, vaccines don't work. It was a hope, but that's not reality.
    Vaccines protect against the severe disease, but a vaccinated people can be infected like any other.

    But if you're vaccinated you don't die. Statistically ...
     
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    ****ing Biden.

    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1559634321262235648?s=20&t=N7nZ8EiobBTel7fcitgmEw

    "Joe Biden entered the room to sign the bill. Took off his mask. Coughed into his hand Signed the bill. Gave the pen to Manchin. Put his mask back on. Shook hands with everyone in the room."

    Remember when the left went absolutely bonkers because when Trump had covid, he took off his mask up on his balcony?

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-took-off-mask-122133874.html
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    Joy-Ann (Pro-Democracy) Reid @JoyAnnReid
    Have to admit I was thrown tonight by the hideous display Trump made of himself tonight, taking his mask off at the White House, with people around whom he could infect. He is indeed, Typhoid Trump at this point. He owns the spread and is even *promoting* the virus.
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    LOL Remind me again why I should listen to anything anyone on the left has to say about covid?
     
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  3. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Comedy relief.
     
  4. UntilNextTime

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    Is it just? How come no lab has isolated a purified sample, anywhere even to this day? It doesn't exist. This is why I suggested negative thoughts and emotions caused the illness in so many.

    How come a minority have dodged the infection altogether? Because they weren't fearful of all the negative propaganda.

    Expalin why people who have been vaccinated suffer adverse effects and or die. And those that didn't get jabbed, are fine and healthy?

    There are a record number of cases of deaths and injuries from the covid shots. The authorities just hide them as death or injury from covid which I've explained, only exists in people's imaginations.

    The FOI replies to a request and states they have no record or documentation of what was requested. So what does that tell us? It tells us it doesn't exist, the virus. In this instance, the delta variant. If that doesn't exist, then the parent virus doesn't either.
    Back to what's making people sick? Fear, negative emotions and thoughts brought on by a fearmongering propaganda campaign via MSM.

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  5. AlpinLuke

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    They know the genetic code of the virus and labs have isolated not a few variants ... [have you ever wondered why we can know it's "Omicron" or "Delta" or "Alpha"?].

    I've never been infected. I've vaccinated [3 shots], but that's not the reason. As a former NBC unit, I know what to do to dodge a virus.
    Anyway, with substantially no more restrictions around, I guess I will get Covid-19 next autumn. Let's see ...

    We go back to the beginning. Covid-19 is a systemic disease. It's like to run for 10,000mt.
    Doing it at 20 is a matter, doing it at 80 is a well different matter!

    The vaccines reduce statistically the incidence of severe forms of the disease, but it's not said that a vaccinated person cannot die getting Covid-19. First of all it depends on the conditions of the persons. It's like about flu: it happens that a person gets flu, but no other member of his family gets it.

    They hide this very well! At least in Italy, we haven't got statistics saying this ...

    Today it's the Omicron variant to be the most common one.
    Anyway, you're right about negative emotions and thoughts: they are a problem for our immune system.
    So they are a factor as well. But as for I know ... SARS-Cov2 exists ...
     
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    Find me where the original isolated and purified covid virus is, who has a sample?

    MSM, fact-checking etc, vilify anyone and anything that goes against their narratives. So many medical professionals have risked their medical professions to come forward and describe their experiences and studies about covid and the "vaccines". The CDC has changed the definition of "vaccine" to suit their narrative.
    https://www.verifythis.com/article/...rent/536-03ce7891-2604-4090-b548-b1618d286834

    Prove it. I don't accept MSM rhetoric either as valid sources of proof.
    I still believe it is the cause of a weakened immune system brought on by the negative emotions and thoughts created by the constant MSM fearmongering propaganda campaign. I don't watch that crap, and I've never been sick or my family.

    https://www.health.com/condition/heart-disease/can-negative-thinking-make-you-sick
    https://habitnest.com/blogs/habit-nest-blog/negative-thinking-can-make-you-sick
     
  7. UntilNextTime

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    @AlpinLuke
    Why the need for a "vaccine" if the severity of covid is less than the cold or flu?

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  8. AlpinLuke

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    The last variant [Omicron] tends to stop in the throat. This is a pivotal difference.
    No risk for lethal pneumonia. At least as for we can know so far.

    In any case, the former variants caused a lethal pneumonia, so vaccines were necessary.

    Then, thinking to how a virus works, the vaccinated population has selected the less virulent and dangerous variants to survive.
    The vaccine is the reason why we are dealing with mild versions of Covid-19. Nothing more simple than this.
     
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    They isolated it in not a few places.
    Once for all: Germany [Deutschland über alles!]
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7272567/
     
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    I'm not convinced. Anyone can write an article and claim anything. Proof has to be an electron microscope image, the isolation, purification and reinfection to be proof. Has this been done?
     
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    So if the covid jabs are the silver bullets, why does my wife's family who have had at least 2 jabs all gotten covid after the fact? One of them having twice and another a third time. To me, this suggests the immune system has been weakened by these vaccines. As I've stated before, my family and I don't listen to or watch any of the fearmongering MSM propaganda, or have taken any jabs. We have not gotten any variant of covid, ever.
     
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    Good question. There is no good reason.
    So to be clear who are the "left"? In Aus, the left are the far extreme nutters. Who are the left in the US, the Democrats?
     
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    Omicron replicates more readily in the upper airways. This does not mean that there isn’t any risk of SARS or lethal pneumonia. Where are you getting your information from? Your source is wrong. With omicron there is less of a chance of it travelling down into the lungs but it still does for those who are vulnerable. On average about 400 people per day are dying from Covid-19 in the USA and it’s not from a mild throat infection. Vulnerable people are developing severe covid and it is moving into the lungs causing massive damage.
     
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    It would be more accurate to report that on average about 400 people per day are dying from Covid-19 mRNA DNA alerting jabs in the USA, and it’s not from the faked viron and its equally faked pseudo pandemic. .
     
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    Yeah, right. A world of doctors and other medical professionals, along with national leaders in every country, are faking a "viron" and killing people with a fake vaccine. That makes perfect sense and is in no way absurd.
     
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    the vaccine trains your immune system to fight the virus if\when you do get it

    the vaccine does not act like a condom that repels the virus
     
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    How come those that have been injected, get sick, and those who haven't, don't?
    Some other questions;
    Why have there been over 100,000 sports people/athletes that are in their prime, super fit and healthy drop on the field in the last 2 years? This being said, they couldn't play their loved sport unless they got jabbed. What does this suggest?
    Why, in the past two years do we have medical conditions now called SADS, Sudden Adult Death Syndrome? Also adding to that list, "died of unknown causes". Why can't a diagnosis be performed as to the cause of death? Hiding something?
    Why have there been countless amounts of victims claiming they've been maimed in some form or another via the "vaccines"? Attention seekers?
    Why do big tech companies such as Pfizer, 'settle out of court'? Something to hide and protect their integrity?

    There are far too many whys happening for something that allegedly "trains your immune system"

     
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    Excellent points UNT.

    The BIG PHARMA "jab-junkies" aren't that bright to connect all the dots. It's best they stick within their intellectual level of the governments game of Checkers and continue on jumping like the programmed little Guinea pigs through all their pseudo science hoops.
     
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    LMAO....
     
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    I'm not saying something different: you're simply sustaining the importance to get the vaccine for vulnerable individuals.
    I appreciate your support for the vaccination campaign.
     
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    Also my brother and his family got Covid after two shots [they were a week far from the third shot].
    The point is that they had a common flu [my niece and my nephew had no symptoms at all].

    What if they weren't vaccinated?

    My big brother is not old enough to risk for real, but my sister-in-law had a cancer. She's a susceptible and vulnerable subject.
    Without vaccine ... she would have risked a lot.
    At the end the one with more severe symptoms [but anyway light] was my brother.
     
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    You directly stated that there is no risk for lethal pneumonia, there is — see your comment below.

     
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    I do confirm that. But Omicron is the last variant.
    The previous variants had the bad habit to dive into the lungs and who wasn't vaccinated risked his life.

    The positive evolution of the virus is a consequence of the diffusion of the vaccines.
    A virus tends to find an equilibrium. Vaccines have made us able to kill the most dangerous variants.
    The less dangerous variants survive and circulate. It's natural.

    So that we have to thank vaccines if the Omicron variant is the circulating one now.
     
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    not sure why you thought that was "laugh your ass off" funny, but ok
     
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    Thanks for reminding me. I'll be getting a fourth COVID vaccine shot today, because not dying or ending up permanently disabled is pretty awesome.

    Some feel differently. That's some serious cult devotion, being willing to die on behalf of a cult.

    Of course, a lot of them are secretly vaccinated. They pretend otherwise, so as not to get ejected from the cult. And that's fine. We don't care if they attack us for saving their lives. We only care about saving their lives. That will be hard for them to understand, since they only care about a political agenda.
     
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