FBI recovered 11 sets of classified documents in Trump search: report

classified means it is classified as a secret if it's no longer a secret class of hiring it as such is just an exercise in lip service

Derp

 

Who cares?

 

So you are saying that Trump showed people documents that were recently classified as Top Secret and you don't care?

 

no, I said who cares.

All the crap you typed in something you said

 

So which of you care or don't care that trump showed documents to people that were recently classified as Top Secret?

 

Who cares?

 

Those who care about their country and national security

 

BS. It's threat to national security. What a pile of horse ****.

 

Dazed and confused once again --- you failed to understand what you read .. got everything all backwards .. ended up doing what was being made fun of in your brethren on the other side .. the way they mindlessly call out ... as if from an inane asylum of some kind .. saying the most obsurd things when unable to address information conflicting with spoon feed propaganda and necessary illusion.

Now off with thee .. I need to pee ...

 

Is a congressman the same as a president:.

 

So that’s a yea or a no?

 

It's the answer I gave.

Except it or don't.

 

Just going to drop this here:

Trump's Alleged Crimes at CRIME-A-LAGO

 

When it comes to governmental secrets, the owner is the government, not Pinkerton's Detective Service.

You are obfuscating two important doctrines here. The ultimate authority to order the declassification is the President. But that does not mean he is the owner. The owner is the issuing agency, whichever that may be. TSSCI will either be DOE or DoD or both as the owner for the classified secrets, for instance. Secret, top secret, and confidential will be at the agency either through original classification or derivative classification. And those secrets that can only be viewed with the proper security clearances, which is higher the secrets, higher the security clearance. In my work I handled mostly confidential and some secret information, and I never took them out of the office or even onto the government laptop for storage, even if the computer was encrypted. When the order is given, which can be the President, but not always,, usually in writing for that document to be declassified if that document is in the excepted area. There are documents that can be automatically declassified, but they don't involve TSSCI, TS, S or even a majority of confidential documents. Once the order by the President or anyone acting under his authority, like the Secretary of Defense, for instance, it is inputted into the system that maintains the status of those documents. It is also "stamped" or other documentation on the cover page of such documents with both the dates of when the document was classified and when it was not. The "stamp" shows when, where, and by whom was the document declassified and that parts of the document may be blotted out to protect government secrets. Unless this process happens, it does not matter what Trump says, the process is the key, not anything else.

 

You can put the cap back on. What you are describing is squeezing a small amount of toothpaste, then deciding to squeeze out the entire tube because you cannot put the small amount back into the tube.

In this case, we can prevent further dissemination of classified information i.e. not squeezing the rest of the toothpaste out.

 

Trump is no longer president, so is not owner.

 

Because an informant tipped them off to more documents that were hidden after they requested a padlock for the documents they let Trump keep.

 

for starters, there are rules and regulations, a whole bunch of them. And there are procedures of how sensitive documents are declassified, such as EO 13526. among other things.

The President has to do than just talk, depending on the type of document, especially with the letters TSSCI, TS, or S is involved. And the President is bound by the same laws and regulations as any other employee. this type of argument is just saying that the President, especially Trump, is above the law, and that's hogwash.

 

But the toothpaste is already out and since that's the subject it doesn't matter what you do with the cap.

It's already declassified reclassifying it world be like putting the cap on an empty toothpaste tube.

What's the point?

 

Just because it was declassified doesn't mean the entire world has seen it. Reclassifying serves the purpose of preventing more people seeing it.

 

A former executive does not have authority over a current one so Obama's order is meaningless.

show me more than just a suggestion from a former executive.




And the President is bound by the same laws and regulations as any other employee. this type of argument is just saying that the President, especially Trump, is above the law, and that's hogwash.[/QUOTE]

First order is a former executives order does not have authority over a current executive he doesn't have to obey someone he outranks.

You keep saying the president has to do more than this but you're not proving it so it's just insisting belligerently.

Make a point or give up

 

The whole world doesn't have to see it just someone without clearance.

The whole point in classification as secret is to keep secrets if it's not secret anymore it's not secret this isn't rocket science.

Not secret memes no longer secret. Reclassifying it then would just to be vindictive.

 

Its a secret because those documents aren't public. If you can show me that those documents are in the public domain already and this don't need to be reclassified, then I will agree.

Why is it it at Trumps house instead of a library if it's not a secret? Why had Trump not made copies for public viewing?

 

I asked for links, not your personal opinions.
Not every document can be declassified by a single person or the owner.
And in the case of say, nuclear documents, there's likely a whole host of people involved in declassification.
The president is NOT king. But must conform to laws.

So, I asked you for links that trump can wave a wand and declassify documents.

You did not. So, it is assumed you are making it up or parroting fake news.

 

BS. It's secret because you have to have clearance to view it. Once someone without clearance views it, it isn't secret anymore.

I reject your BS claim that it has to be public in order not to be secret. So I don't need to show you whatever gobbledygook you made up just now to try and get me to stop.

Because nobody took it there. It's not a crime to possess your own presidential documents, just to destroy them.

Probably because nobody cares.