Liz Cheney could be a weapon of mass destruction

Cheney is juggling the idea of entering the presidential race.

His mission will be mostly to keep Trump from winning.

But she doesn't need to rally many conservatives to her cause to completely torpedo Trump's chances of being a competitive presidential candidate.

If only 5% of Republicans support her (1-2 million), they will have a mandate to abstain from voting if Trump wins the primary.

Thoughts?

 

5% would barely get a candidate through the first few primaries until their funding dried up. Would be much ado about literally nothing.

 

The people who will support Cheney will not rally behind Trump if he wins.

That's my point.

 

just run as an independent and the Orange Stain is toast for sure

 

Any idea is possible, at this stage of what we really don't know. However, being that she is vice-chair of the Jan 6th Committee, she probably is calculating based on what she knows about the Orange Turd, and whatever that is, is far more informed than anyone on a forum can dream up based only on what is known publicly.

 

My point is that the only people that could "rally" around her in your scenario, would be the people in the first few primaries, while the remaining 45 or 48 states residents would not have that opportunity. Which is why I said it would be much ado about nothing.

In truth, if you have Republicans that would support Cheney, it is highly unlikely they would ever vote for Trump regardless because those people are already never Trumpers. This would not require a Liz Cheney presidential run. With that being said, if she wants to run she should, I personally would have zero problem with her doing so. In fact, I would find it a little humorous.

 

I'm sorry, but even Ross Perot being a billionaire couldn't break the binary partisan system we've evolved into. That's just a low probability factor that cannot be ignored.

At this stage, I would think she has a greater chance of success with Democrats in an attempt to make that party more centered, than her trying to do the same with the GOP.

OR, she will do as she said and do everything to stop Trump from ever holding office again.

My bet is on the latter.

 

many dems would register as republicans for the primaries if Trump ran... to vote for Cheney

cause anyone is better than the Orange Stain, we would not care

 

I've been saying that all day. He destroyed her career but ...

"They all laughed ... but ...

... Oh, oh, oh ... who's got the last laugh ... now!

 

Yeah, but her discussion is about how many Republican votes that Cheney could siphon. 5% is relevant in my reply to her assertion because the donations at that percentage would not be sufficient to fund a long-term campaign. Democrats voting as Republicans are irrelevant to the process on both counts.

Sincerely, I would be ecstatic about her running. I would find it humorous and I see no threat from her even remotely. If Trump were to run he would have some serious obstacles to winning. Liz Cheney would not be among them.

 

I think that is exactly the calculus. She may run as an independent/ spoiler. She will not move to the center to try to appeal to independents or Dems. She will not waste her time attacking the Democratic nominee per se because that is not her target . She will talk policy and she will attack any policy she thinks is bad whether it comes from a Trumpster or the Democratic nominee. . And every breath she takes will be an opportunity to attack her real enemy and try to pull votes from him on ethics issues etc. She will not let any Republicans or independents forget the consequences of their last Trump vote on the country. Cheney really does not need to pull very votes from him either. if independents do not go for Trump and Republicans , even a 1 in 10, simply cannot stomach voting for trump. He is toast.

Its a serious threat that Republican voters might think about during the primary and it might make them more likely to pull the lever for DeSantis or someone else.

 

dems are already far center, it's just the right has gone off the deep end of the scale - Biden was not far left for sure

"OR, she will do as she said and do everything to stop Trump from ever holding office again."

in a swing State, even taking a couple of thousand votes as an independent is enough

 

Oh, I agree with you, but it's just a guess that I think she would find more acceptance among Dems in the current environment. A lot can still happen in the next year alone that could change all our perceptions.

 

I agree, like I said, I would vote for her in the primary

 

doesn't cost much to fund a campaign you have no intention of winning in the traditional sense, Trump losing is a win for her

 

If the other choice is a Biden Regime that has destroyed the economy and pushed gas prices beyond five bucks a gallon, the likely outcome of this latest round of green magic thinking that the Dems have just inflicted on us Trump will look like the last Golden age by comparison. You'll be seeing bumper stickers that read anything Democrats.

 

This time the axe gave Liz 40 whacks. And when she saw what it had done, she gave herself 41.

 

If she thinks the best way to keep Trump from winning is to run as an establishment Repub candidate that is what she'll do. You correctly identified her mission.

 

Former President Trump faces much more of a challenge from DeSantis.

 

She is a threat? You mean like Mittens?

 

She can always get a $15 hour job at Mickey Ds…

 

Are you suggesting that Liz will run as an independent or are you thinking she will run as a Republican? If she runs as a Republican she has to beat him in the primaries and that won’t happen. If she runs as an independent it could be another 1996 but with a worse candidate. She actually may take votes away from democrats too being she was on their side in much of this and she is a woman. To be honest, it could be interesting

 

Who told you this? Do you have an example of a long-term low-budget campaign? Or do you not and you just figured you would make it up because it suits your argument to say so?

 

I would invite you to read my first post again.

Read-Comprehend-Respond

In this order please.

 

I did read it but being you used his and her in reference to the same person I guess I could miss understand your post. Or is that just a liberal thing to confuse pronouns?