Passports taken in FBI search of Mar-a-Lago returned to Trump

And that is exactly why people want to see the affidavit.

 

When you are looking for dirt you don't prejudge anything. You just take it if you can get away with it and then see if there is any dirt in it somewhere.

 

It's my understanding, from what little I've heard, that things described in the affidavit involve other ongoing investigations and they don't want to show those cards yet.

Whatever, right? Trump will skate again. He always does. I've given up on the notion of accountability where he's concerned.

 

Evidence?

 

Assuming your premise is correct, a premise for which you have not provided evidence.

 

Common sense and logic. Why did they ask the judge for a warrant to inspect documents after Trump invited them down to go through and inspect his documents?

 

What do you think they do when someone is trying to uncover dirt?

 

You got it wrong, it wasn't about 'inspecting documents' it was about Trump refusing to return illegally obtained documents of National Security importance and of strategic nuclear importance.

They didn't ask the judge for a warrant. All warrant's require a judge to sign off on it, to approve it.

What you meant to ask is: 'Why did the FBI need a warrant?'.

Because the Archives have been trying for over a year to get all the documents, especially the ones with TS/SCI classifications having to do with nuclear secrets and after all the attempts and Trump still refused, they referred it to the DOJ. An attorney signed a letter claiming all the documents requested were delivered, but it was not true. Some were returned, but not the ones containing nuclear secrets.

The DOJ issued a subpoena, but Trump still refused.

After all that, the only recourse is a search warrant, which is why a federal magistrate signed off on it, he saw that that was the proper course of action, given the circumstance surrounding the request, and that there would documents of high strategic value and national security importance for which Trump cannot declassify without approval from the nuclear authority, plus the fact that the documents belong to the US Government, plus the fact that Trump removed them without authorization and thus Trump was in illegal possession of them. The warrant had to name what was sought, federal codes that were being violated.

 

Why 8s it that you never provide anything to back up your right wing claims? I've asked you, as have several others over the years, but you reply with snark sass, or "it's common sense."

In this case, that's horse pucky. You seem to be grasping at straws in your attempt to cast aspersions on the FBI and garner sympathy for poor, mistreated Donal Trump. It's kind of pitiful.

The FBI has very detailed processes that they must follow in order to obtain a search warrant.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...w-does-the-fbi-get-a-warrant-to-search-a-home

You really should at least try to do a little research before posting comments as if you know better. Apologies if this is a bit snarky. Chalk it up as karma.

 

Your question has an assumed premise. You'll need to provide evidence the FBI is looking for dirt.

And no, it's not common sense. It's not even logical. The FBI looks for crime, and let's the chips fall where they may.

Hell, it might not have been Trump that committed the crime of espionage, it could have been someone else. THe warrant didn't mention Trump, it only mentioned which federal codes were violated and what documents were being sought and why they believed they were at Mar A Lago.

 

Their needing a search warrant might have been warranted in their mind if they didn't believe Trump's invite (and they might have had reason not to, I don't know). So, why didn't they get the warrant, show up with maybe a half dozen agents, knock on the door, serve the warrant, enter, and search the premises per the warrant? But, no, what is curious and more than a bit smelly, they showed up with 2-3 dozen or so agents, knocked on the door, served the warrant, threw everybody out, tried to shut of all the security cameras, and spent 8 or 9 or so hours looking through everything (including Melania's panties I hear). That seems to be a unique procedure reserved for Trump and his associates and a procedure wholly conducive to looking for stuff other than what was listed on the warrant..

 

That was not the question I replied to. The question was why anyone looking for dirt would pick up something that doesn't have any dirt.

 

Noting that you are willing to stoop to cheap shots and innuendo, I'll put that aside.

FYI, I wouldn't put anything past a guy like, like hiding nuke docs in Melania's closet.

This was going on for over a year. The Archives gave up and referred it to the Justice Dept.

The DOJ issued two subpoenas, and Trump still refused to return the documents.

They had no choice but to issue a warrant, simply because asking and issuing subpoenas did not work.

As for the cameras, no wonder -- I would try to shut of security cameras, given that Trump and his minions have tried to make it seem that the security footage of election workers was fraud in, as it turns out, they were merely doing their jobs, all routine things. Moreover, the FBI needs to do their job without interference, which includes removing people from areas being searched. An inventory of everything that is removed and a reciept for same was given to Trump's people.

 

Your assumption is that someone is looking for dirt.

Otherwise, why would you ask such a question?

 

You are having much difficulty with this simple notion, aren't you? I did not assume anything. I did not ask anything.

 

You refute my analysis by not refuting it at all (nor agreeing with it) and simply saying you like what they did. That about finishes this out.

 

Annnnnd they've been returned, because the FBI had no grounds to seize them, to begin with...lmao

 

You didn't ask anything?

This looks like something to me:



You may now pull your foot from out of your mouth:

 

I totally refuted your analysis. Your refutation of that fact contains no substantiation, no path of reasoning, no on point analysis of my points, nothing.

therefore, the failure is yours. That about finishes this out.

 

Watch out...he can skip the country now.

 

Oh, but they did.

 

Obviously they DIDN'T, since they promptly gave them back...lol

 

So that receipt where they are supposed to list everything they took, that didn't list the passports they took, pretty much useless as an actual record of what these thugs that are trying to fix the 2024 election actually took?

 

My passport does, but it's 8 years old now. Second, I do know a lot of developed countries use electronic methods of id and verifying the passport, which is where the "stamp" occurs. this is especially true with VW countries. However, if a visa is attached to the passport, some method is used, usually, a stamp of some sort or a customs signature, notating that you passed through customs. This helps with local or national police if you have to provide identification and they can tell you passed through legally, and not illegally.

But the point is, that the FBI has access to this information through the State Department or through cooperation from other immigration legal systems in most countries. It may take time, but they can obtain the information.

 

What they searched for is what the search warrant stipulates.