'Ludicrous.' 'Ridiculous.' 'A complete fiction.': Former Trump officials say his claim of 'standing

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    'Ludicrous.' 'Ridiculous.' 'A complete fiction.': Former Trump officials say his claim of 'standing order' to declassify is nonsense


    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/18/...se-patently-false-former-officials/index.html

    Well, it looks like donny’s claim (that he had declassified the documents seized from MaL) has been completely debunked.

    There’s absolutely no surprise that he would make up a lie in a stupid attempt to try to save his own skin. And no surprise that the lie would be completely idiotic and ludicrous.
    And also no surprise that his supporters would believe the lie, lean into it and repeat it.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Information marked as Top Secret (TS) or Special Access Required (SAR), can't be declassified on a magic whim by the president.
     
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    True, but for those who love Trump, the “truth ain’t the truth,” and anything is possible
     
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    Correct. People have been arguing for days that he declassified everything that was seized from MaL but when faced with virtually conclusive evidence that he didn’t, they just ignore it.
    Crickets.
     
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    They will just say the courts have ruled retroactive declassification is a thing.
     
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    I love the bit where he confessed to having the documents
     
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    CNN? Really
     
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    They provided names and direct quotes. Not anonymous sources.
     
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    Lol…51 intelligence experts? Been there, done that.

    I will never click on a CNN link and it’s a rare event when someone on this board has the balls to post one.
     
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    So you chastised the article without reading it. Got it.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I did based in their shitty reputation for lying and why they are dropping viewers, firing hosts and cancelling shows.

    Get reputable source, maybe dossiers from Russia or something like that.
     
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    So, what will be your excuse when it is confirmed elsewhere ...?
     
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    You might think your statement is accurate, but it is not. I actually thought your statement was accurate as well.

    This all from Verify This web site.

    "Yes, the president can declassify documents while in office, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow."

    "A sitting U.S. president has wide-ranging authority to classify and declassify certain documents, but former presidents do not have authority over classification and declassification."

    Now, if he had any documents that he declared declassified that were on the subject of nuclear information he has a problem as they are also protected by the federal Atomic Energy Act of 1954. This means, even if he declassified them, it cannot be shared widely as it is still deemed Restricted Data by that Act.

    "In addition, there are other federal laws in place that bar a president from taking government records, whether they are classified or declassified. Still, breaking those laws – or most other laws – doesn’t automatically disqualify someone from becoming president, because of the simple presidential qualifications that are outlined in the U.S. Constitution."

    Seems a bit like muddy waters to me.
     
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    For the 394th time……..the classification status of those documents HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 3 LAWS THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED…!!
     
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    Tell that to your lame-stream media who keeps reporting that they recovered classified documents. We are simply responding to what your press is reporting. I guess you are saying that CNN are liars?

    CNN - The Justice Department removed 11 sets of classified documents from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence.
     
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    And classified they may well have been…! But, it makes no difference in the investigation of those 3 crimes whether they were or not….the classification status of the documents is a red-herring that The Stain and his sycophants are desperately clinging to, in a vain attempt to distract from his criminality…
     
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    It done for political talking points, to flood the zone with s*** and create confusion. The media feeds off of it as well to create the eyeball drama and this adds to discussion legitimacy.
     
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    You said Classification doesn't matter. You screamed it! I was just sharing that is the title of CNN's story on the raid. Liberal lame-stream media reporting what you said doesn't matter.
     
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    Yes it can. A better argument for you would be that he didn't really declassify them. That, at least, is believable.
     
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    Was this the “new” cnn that’s said it’s gonna stop lying and begin telling the truth? Or was this the old cnn that just lies about everything, all the time?

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    You have obviously fallen for dirty donny’s lies. CNN is imperfect but in general highly reliable.
     
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    Add it to the long list of cracks in our collective armor that the Trump presidency exposed by trying to do things they knew were either illegal or unethical.
     
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    Are you suggesting that the people quoted didn't actually say those things?

    Your meme was cute, but adults are talking.
     
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    And it doesn’t - to the crimes listed on the search warrant. The fact that some MAY be classified speaks to an overriding concern for the welfare of your country

    But for the entirety of the Trump presidency the White House was not trusted by the five eyes partnership
     
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