American Gun Sales Collapse in 47 States

I'm curious, why do you feel people should not have the right to end their own lives if they deem fit? I guess when one isn't having to deal with the multitude of issues that can drive a person to prefer death over other problems, it's easy to say they shouldn't have that option available to them.

How sad, and shallow is such thinking. May you never, ever have to deal with such a situation.

 

I don't believe we have the right to coerce anyone to refrain from suicide if they really wish to but we shouldn't make it easy. I guess you don't believe we should have high guardrails (enough to be hard to climb, not block the view ) on buildings either.
What is it with gun advocates that they seem to see gun possession as the end all and be all of life anyway like if it's ever restricted for ANY reason we'll just slink off and kill ourselves?

 

There is a whole lot of America outside the concrete jungles.

 

Not sure if such thing exists with guns

Which is why there is no such thing as "saturated".

 

May you never have to deal with it happening to a family member. Notice I say happening, in almost all cases involving physically healthy people suicides are basically murdering themselves

I think it should be an option available to anyone. Ideally, it should be in a doctor's office and under the medical supervision of a trained specialist.

 

I know of several policemen, many with awards and commendations, who pride themselves on never having had to draw their guns once in the full entirety of long careers.

If you truly feel the need for a gun to survive in your day-to-day existence you should move.

 

What does guardrails (to prevent ACCIDENTS) have to do with intentional suicide?

Like many things, gun ownership is personal choice. No one tells you, you MUST. Sort of like other personal choices, eh?

You apparently don't seem to be able to separate between a specified, intention line item spelled out and clarified in the founding documents, and suicide. That is one clouded reasoning, to be sure.

 

Too late.

Murder is not a voluntary action on behalf of the person receiving it, but if one was desperate enough to conflate the issue, I supposed taking drugs that numb a person to life and emotions is a slow smothering.

 

Drugs to me are just what they say, medicines we use to treat diseases. If these are mental disorders just the same. No governmental body has any business telling its citizens how they should treat disorders of their private persons.

 

The list of mind-altering drugs given to people who supposedly have mental/emotional problems is lengthy. I abbreviated into 'drugs', which are not just for treating a disease.

Your second statement actually supports the statement I initially made in regards to suicide.

 

Well, let's ban guns, but set up Suicide Clinics - feeling depressed? busted up with your girlfriend? got cancer? Just go to your local suicide clinic!

 

Why ban guns? They don't function all by themselves. With as many guns that exist here in the US, if guns were the problem, don't you think the world would know it?

Why set up clinics? People have plenty of ways to exit, some just a little more messy then others. Don't need to pay someone else to administer something. Hell, people think that hard drugs should be available for the asking, no penalty. Want out? Here's a hard liner, already in the syringe....

 

You are right about that. They do draw often, but shooting in indeed rare. The media makes is sound like cops are shooting black our sport.
See my link in my sig for Chicago crime stats, which includes shootings by police.
Shootings by police year to a date: 1 killed, 13 wounded.

 

Maybe they have a hard time viewing guns as toys when they think about all of the dead children the 2nd Amendment gives us.

 

You know policemen who worked in the jail. None of those people worked the street.

 

The 2A has never killed anyone. That’s an outright fabrication.

 

It's probably similar to my own situation where I have shifted from purchasing firearms to purchasing mods and scopes and a few magazines.

By the time the next threat to the 2A arises, all the recently purchased firearms will be built up or molded out. Then another round of firearm acquisition will happen.

 

If cops can get by without killing people why can't civilians?

 

if cops can shoot bad guys threatening people why can’t civilians?

 

Yes, guns dont function all by themselves, they weren't designed to. Hand guns were invented to carry on your person, out of sight, and produced if you wanted to kill another human being (rifles and shotguns are more for hunting.) So yes, it's people who pull the triggers, but that's not the issue: no guns and no people pulling triggers. This is what Aussies, Kiwis, Brits and Japanese figured out.

 

they’re not going anywhere because Americans aren’t that stupid. Once again why can’t a woman have a fighting chance against her rapist or murderer?

 

With the exception of criminals or assassins, I don't believe there is a single civilian who 'wants' to kill another human being. What they want, is to be able to defend.

You may be a 6' male at 200 pounds, with a black belt in karate, but not everyone is. Since too many people believe 'what's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine' those who don't meet the initially stated physical condition, need to be able to defend against it, along with other motivating situations like venomous snakes, rabid animals, and getting between a bear and it's cubs.

Your 'representative list' also doesn't have the COTUS, nor exist for the same reasons. And to bring history into it, Brits and Japanese certainly found firearms useful.

 

Who were the assassins at Sandy Hook defending themselves against? And the other 68 school shootings since the year 2000 ???
Brits and Japs take a dim view of domestic hand guns. You have every 'right' to have one, but the licensing is onerous.

 

Same reason as a child should have a chance against the 68 school shooters since the year 2000. And kids should have some defence in domestic violence too - I suggest every child from 3 years onwards should be able to have a hand gun.

 

That right there is a daily statistic among Chicago citizens shooting themselves.