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  1. notme

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    What Trump tried to do, is getting Germany to buy from the US whose fossil fuel is far more expensive. It would make Germany poor while also dependent on the US. That's all good out of the American perspective, but a crap deal for Germany. It's all cool with hindsight. But back in the day, there were no signs at all that Russia would attack Ukraine. We all bought oil from Saddam in the past, without a care in the world.

    It's also well known ISIS pumped up oil and made a fortune exporting it. Nobody can say where it went to and who refined it. It's not like Total is able to tell us where the oil came from when they refined it. They could if they kept track of everything. But they chose not to. BP, Shell, they are all the same.

    And lastly. The greens are part of the German government because it's the will of the people. Do you understand? It's the will of the people to have a higher regard for the environment. You obviously do not agree, but your opinion isn't important at all.
     
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    Do you live on the moon? Take the TV out of your head and look out the window. Russians don't care about sanctions. The Russians have redirected their energy sales to Asia. Russians are completely self-sufficient. Including all scientific developments. From space to nuclear power plants.
    The Russians only benefited from the sanctions. Look at the statistics - Russians open hundreds of new businesses every day. Sanctions have freed the market for Russians.
    What can the West offer - gay parades and changing the sex of a child? The West is completely degraded. But you continue to puff out your cheeks pathetically. And it's really funny.
     
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    I dunno what you're on with. If sanctions wouldn't matter, then you promote the idea to buy Russian gas.
    I'm not a supporter of buying Russian goods by the billions so they can use that profit to fund a war.
     
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    Labour wasn’t against the EU, it was against the EEC. The EU didn’t exist until 1993.

    True, the UK was never a part of the Euro zone. But signing the Masticht Treaty meant we were in the EU up to our necks. Brexit was a referendum that it was hoped the population would endorse giving away our sovereign powers to Brussels.

    Borders controls, sovereignty and different currencies existed for centuries before the EU. The EU is barely 20 years old. Similary, European countries existed for centuries without iphones, Netflix and gay pride marches. If you were born before 1980, you’ll remember all that. If not, ask your parents.
     
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    Because we need Russian energy and if we don't buy it, other countries will. Major energy suppliers do not go bankrupt because a small minority of the world sanctions their product.
     
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    Things evolve from one thing to an other.
    The firs step was made in the 1970's.
    While the EU still is by far mostly about economics... that's what the EEC stood for.

    While a lot of MP's voted against Maastricht. 100's of them. They were simply voted out. So you know. Your idea that there were no politicians against it, is bollocks.
     
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    your idea is not supported with what everybody sees when paying the gas bill.
     
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    It's because the west sanctioned Russia energy is why the huge gas bills.
     
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    It's suss like CNN is suss. And until you can point me to opposing viewpoint news network that looks at world events with a different interpretation, I can comfortably **** on RT as it's not being challenged in any way.

    It is CNN without Fox news designed to brainwash the Russian population with a controlled narrative.

    So ya. It's suss.

    ;)
     
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    The best thing the EU and US can do for the Russians is not to buy gas from Russia.
    There is nothing better for rising gas prices (the price of gas in the EU reaches 3 thousand dollars instead of two hundred dollars as it used to be) And the Russians have super profits. For them, it does not matter that the EU buys Russian gas through intermediaries. All the same, Russian gas is in high demand.
    In addition, the demand for Russian gas has increased in Southeast Asia. It also provokes the price of oil and coal, which the Russians also sell at a very good price. And also the price of Russian fertilizers has risen very strongly, which will lead to an increase in food prices (+ heat). And if you have not forgotten, then let me remind you - Russians are No. 1 in grain exports. Therefore, rising food prices are a good opportunity to make money.
    "Long live the sanctions" is what the Russians say.
     
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    The EEC moved from trade to EU politics. It’s why the name change. Although the EU is not a nation state, it has all the trappings of an anthem, parliament, diplomats and even a proposed army. All that has nothing to do with trade.

    Yes, a number of MP’S voted against Maastricht, but the government signed the Treaty on behalf of the people who had no say in it. BREXIT is the first say we had.
     
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    I previously named a TV channel for you that criticizes Putin, the Russian Government, the FSB ... and whoever you like. I even gave you links to the archive of this TV channel and to the online broadcast. This channel is called "Russia 1". All Russian authorities are very strongly criticized in the program "Evening with Vladimir Solovyov". (I gave you a link to their archive.) In his program, more than 90% of the guests criticize the authorities in Russia. This TV broadcast is in prime time. That is at the best time. Channel "Russia 1" is owned by the Russian government. And despite this, there is a lot of criticism of any branch of power in Russia on this channel. If you want links, look in my previous comments for you. Or google for help.
     
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    https://twitter.com/tvrussia1

    Seems to me that having checked a few of their tweets and it's fairly one sided.

    Such harsh criticism like;
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    or
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    So what's considered hard critism? "Putin scored 8 goals with the help of his teamates!"?

    Wanna try again?

    Maybe you should check out fox news headlines and see how they interpret events in such a light that doesn't make the President look very good right now? Or CNN's hot takes on anything Trump did. See when you are allowed to criticize, you get multiple angles of thought on any current event.

    This sounds like more of the same nonsense.
     
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    Question. Is Putin ever criticized inside his own country?
     
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    Do they have a twitter? I did not know.
    But what's the problem? They report the news. What's unusual?
    If they write - "snow is white", will you assure everyone that this is Putin's propaganda?:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Do you understand the meaning of what you read?
    I wrote in the comment above - the central channel of Russian TV, which belongs to the Russian government, at the best of times (and not only) shows a lot of criticism of any branches of government. Including criticism of Putin. What is not clear to you? This channel, which broadcasts programs in Russian, naturally broadcasts for Russians.
    Is it hard for you to understand?
     
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    oh it's very anti Putin...:rolleyes: they are CLEARLY reporting everything with a slant that Putin can do no wrong.

    So please...try again. Your first try was a strike.
     
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    I have not watched it, but I bet any criticism of Putin is done tongue in cheek without any real true criticism of Putins wars or criminal financing.
     
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    It's clear. Putin said "snow is white" - this is Putin's propaganda and lies. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    I'm curious, do you understand what you write?
     
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    Your slogan is "I don't know, but I condemn." Is not it? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Please show me a russian news network that is not pro putin please.

    Or was that it?
     
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    Do you have a memory like a fish? Do you only remember the last three minutes?
    I wrote to you twice about such a TV channel. If you have memory problems, then you should not contact me.
     
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    No. he isn't. Which is why is approval rating is so high. Russia has the equivelant of CNN and that's it. And anyone who opposes the popular narrative is jailed and villified.

    If Ben Shapiro were to reside in **** hole Russia, he would be in the Gulag by now. Yes...they would reopen the Gulag and toss Ben into it.
     
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    Yes yes...you pointed me towards Russia1. I checked their twitter and their bias was allll out there for all to see.

    "Here is Putin straighting the flowers on a dead soldier's gravestone!" OOooooh What hard hitting journalism! LOL.

    Please point me to a Putin hard hitting news station. Because fella...Russia1 is not it.
     
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    American MSM never criticize usa warmongering until it goes pear shaped. In fact, you can be arrested in UK for being anti war UNTIL the time comes when it's painfully obvious it was either an ill conceived venture or illegal.
     
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