THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. USVet

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    My understanding is the encryption are 500-600 years old (before modern irrigation or transportation) and they are in rivers under water except during extreme drought. Thus if the stones and enscriptions are exposed it meant extreme drought, failed harvests, and famine. Thus it tells readers to despair if they can read the enscriptions on the rocks.
     
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    Russia is not capable of charging in any where. We saw that at the beginning of their failed invasion. They have extremely weak logistics except near railway lines, they are unable to do combined arms effectively, they don't even have modern e crypted communications systems (certainly not for all units). China is still largely based on the same Soviet systems (or derivatives) with the same poor tactics, command and control, and weak training systems so they are also vastly weaker than previously thought.
     
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    Russia's doing fine ... Much of the primary objective has been taken - area along the black sea from Donbass to Crimea .. now relatively secure .. Odessa the only remaining access to the Sea under Ukraine control.

    Not easy to take territory while keeping civilian casualties and infrastructure damage to a minimum ..

    "Not Capable of Charging in" - LOL .. what a silly statement .. pure fantasyland nonsense - desperate to project the US as "Strong" and the evil others as weak.

    Russia could have done like in Syria .. defeating ISIS .. carpet bombing .. boom boom - .. now there's some big civilian casualties for comparison. Ukraine being handled with kid gloves .. should be given humanitarian award of some kind for conducting war so gently ..
    Throw away the key on that Biden Fellow .. in Bed with the Terrorists in Syria .. the mass slaughter of civilians, genocide , war crimes, crimes against humanity .. oh the list just goes on and on now doesn't it dear .. Land of the Free .. Home of the Brave don't ya know .. spreading "Freedom" and "Democracy" .. while destryong the planet at the same time .. don't ya know dear .. just a complete disaster this Biden fellow .. the worst sort of people we got leading the band..
     
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    Nonsense, if I may so say so. Russia intervened in the Donbass and Crimea in 2014 and stopped the militias from ethnic cleansing there. In 2015 Russia intervened in Syria and stopped the US from overthrowing Assad. It then intervened this year, defeated the Ukrainians in every battle and is now developing a buffer zone in the east. That’s without conscription and fighting against all the weapons, money and advisors NATO is throwing in. That doesn’t sound like a weak army.
     
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  5. USVet

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    Ok, we can safely assume you are either a liar or live in a fantasy world. In Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, and now Ukraine the only tactic Russia has successfully been able to carry out is mass artillery attacks to destroy all civilian infrastructure while slowly inching forward. No, that is not "charging in" and is explicitly a slow methodical crawl while deliberately committing war crimes.

    Everything for the last 30 years shows that is all the poorly trained, poorly equipped, and even more poorly lead Russia military is capable of. Fact.
     
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    Russia hasn't even mobilized. A declaration of war is needed to mobilize in Russian standards.

    This Zelensky/NATO fanboy crap is beyond getting old. He's a piece of :icon_shithappens: controlled by the US and the nazis in that shithole country.

    The US got ran out of Afghanistan by goat herders. The US military is full of blue haired candy asses/fat girls. Russia isn't afraid of woketards.
     
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    "You are either a Liar" - reportable .. but how much fun would that be .. Think we can safely assume the opposite is true and projection is afoot.

    "Chechnya Georgia" .. Who said anything about them ? .. Talking about Syria .. how Russia took care of the new Islamic State . armed , supported, supplied by your Beloved Biden .. took care of that mess in very short order. City by City .. every major city in Syria .. sans Raqqa . cause was in the "US Protection Zone" .. After Russia finished defeating ISIS everywhere else .. the US turned on their proxy army .. and destroyed the final outpost in Raqqa under Trump .. then screwed the Kurds .. Again . think it is like time 8 or something .. some folks never learn . who can not be trusted...

    So who is the one who is either in "Fantasy"/ self deception or falsehood .. denial or deceit

    Russia took care of business in the 10+ cities it liberated .. just as US took care of Business in Raqqa .. lots of big bombs .. wiping the place out- big civilian casualty count.

    Vlad could be dropping a whole lot more "poundage" on Ukraine than is being done currently .. killing a whole lot more civilians .. and za one who is in denial of this ... is the one who is either that or - as you said lying .. to which I will add .. "To themselves" :)

    Who Who Who .. turned out to be ....you... you... you :cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader:
     
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    I see. This is why Putin is losing land each week now because he isn't dropping enough tonnage.
     
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    I wonder what the whole message said. I can make out "Wenn du mich siehst, dann Fr. Mayer". Not a complete message, is it? Seems to have eroded quite a lot, unfortunately.
     
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    Putin has not been losing land each week .. what a nonsensical and false thing to say .. some weeks in the war he Russia gains .. others they lose territory..

    Russia is currently in control of the majority of what they intend to occupy .. all the land along the Black Sea to Crimea .. only a small portion - Odesa - being left. . an hey perhaps Ukraine can negotiate and keep a little access to the Black Sea.

    For the moment .. Russia is defending which is much easier to do than to take land all the way to Crimea.

    Not even sure that Vlad wants Odesa that badely .. but would they want to advance the last little bit .. more tonnage could be applied to make things happen quicker .. less tender care of civilian casualties ... turn the place into rubble .. but Vlad in no Rush .. War Economy has been quite profitable for Russia .. the longer this persists . the more they gain .. and conversely ... the more pain for the West. Let not myopy cloud your vision of the geopolitical chessboard ... a game your not that great at to begin with :)
     
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    Well, that’s one way of puuting it.

    The problem is, the US forces were not designed for the fights it now gets into. It was designed to face an enemy head on and beat an opponent with sheer numbers and force and why it loses when it tries to put boots on the ground. Since WW2, the US has lost every fight it has started except the Iraq war which was a coalition.

    The US built aircraft carriers. Russia didn’t even try to catch up. It developed cheap hypersonic missiles that could sink them. It’s why you don’t see many of them around now. The US built stealth fighters, the Russians developed radar that could target the heat their engines were ommiting. The US built the F35, so advanced it can barely fly. The Russians developd the S series of ground to air missiles to shoot them down. Much of US technology is for show, as it was never envisaged it would have to fight an equal opponent.

    The US also has a different minset to Europeans and Asians for that matter. The Europeans will bargain from a bad position. When the US realizes it can’t win, it drops everything and runs. Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea are all examples of where that happened. How often do you hear now of bringing democracy to Afghanistan and fighting the Tailban? It’s been wiped from the collective memory not to be mentioned anymore. It’s just a different mindset.

    Russia builds weapons for actual use. The US finances the military complex.
     
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    ...errmmmm....if I may say so that's a load of wank.....all the Russian propaganda swallowed like a whore giving a BJ
     
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    kabooooom......and the turret launches into low earth orbit....wheeeeee......:roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:....trouble being they don't actually work.....shall we discuss the T-90 maybe not as you don't do well with reality do you


    I vote this pork chop my favorite poster.....:clapping::clapping:.....such a unique view of the world....you crack me up lad...you really do
     
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    Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Strikes Back | Crimea will be back


    Denys would like to thank the Americans for paying our taxes to support Ukraine. So thank you, @Bill Carson :)
     
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    No idea? Then be aware:

    RIA Novosti (Russian: РИА Новости), sometimes referred to as RIAN (РИАН) or RIA (РИА) is a Russian state-owned domestic news agency. On 9 December 2013 by a decree of Vladimir Putin it was liquidated and its assets and workforce were transferred to the newly created Rossiya Segodnya agency.[1] On 8 April 2014 RIA Novosti was registered as part of the new agency.

    Russia declares that they want to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainian nation, openly, without any shame. There is no if. Here is the manifest of Russian Nazism from State information agency RIA:

    https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html

    Arm yourself with Google Translate and go ahead, read this manifest of your beloved Russian Nazis.
    There most of the Ukrainian nation is counted in Nazis. Nazis in their understanding are those, who stands for independent Ukraine and Western way for Ukraine. They clam that even word "Ukraine" should be erased, "deikrainization" should be executed, Ukrainian elite should be killed. Ukrainian nation is declared "fake nation" and should not exist, just as Ukrainian state.
     
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    No thanks. English only for me.
     
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    As opposed to your MSM propaganda rhetoric bullshit. Of course they won't, they're too caught up in the latter stated. All hail MSM bullshit news.:worship: Where the truth never gets told.
     
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    I am surprised that Russia is even failing in conventional warfare. I expected them to win this war quickly, but unable to control the Ukraine and deal with decades of partisan actions, decimating their army. But they failed even at step one, which is ridiculous, given they try so eager to present themselves as a super power.

    However, reconstruction will be expensive either way. Either Russia will pay for it or never be able to get out of the sanctions which will turn them into a supersized North Korea.

    The heaviest loss of population it will not have due to war actions, but due to brain drain. People will leave this shithole state in masses. I think in one generation Russia and Turkey will be equal in population, but Turkey with a young and power hungry, Russia with an old population and only those no crafts or talents needed outside of Russia so unable to leave it. Turkey, Japan and China will take their chunk of the pie. What they lacked for a super power is simply population and now they do everything to decimate their own.
     
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    Correction, the US has never outright won a ground war since the Civil War, if you count the Union as the US. The US builds unpractical weapons to enrich the MIC, that's all it does. If a war can't be won from the air, the US can't win (unless it uses nukes). No, the US did not win WW2 European theater. It DID win in the Pacific, from the air...with nukes.
     
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    Denys is a grifter just like your cocaine hero in Kyiv. Both can go **** themselves, eat :icon_shithappens: and :tombstone:.

    Honestly I just laugh when you post his bullshit. It's a total joke. The militarysummary YouTube channel is legit.
     
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    Yep, that "legit" channel said Russia was going to take Odessa 5 months ago.
     
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    And that's because Russian "intelligence" is so ****ing stupid they thought they wouldn't need to, that they'd take Ukraine by decapitating its government within a few weeks.

    Too late for that.

    Nah what's getting old is cowards who supplicate Vladimir Putin rather than stand up to him. And something tells me you've never served.
     
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    You watched it 5 months ago Bobby? Your beloved Denys said Crimea would be taken by now as well as the rest of the former area of "the ukraine"

    minute 2:25 on is in English. Well summed up.

     

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