FBI recovered 11 sets of classified documents in Trump search: report

Nope, that's wasn't what I said and the fact that you asked me surely indicates you're not paying attention to what I actually did say.

 

A few things... And some misconceptions here.

1. Classified documents. Do you remember in The Office when Micheal Scott yelled "I declare bankruptcy!"? It was hilarious because that isn't what that means or how it works. Interestingly, for a president and classified materials that is exactly how it works. He can just declare them not classified and they arent. So the premise is somewhat off here.

2. It is completely routine for presidents to hold onto documents after leaving the whitehouse. All agencies were aware of this and consulted on it... Which is why the FBI signed off on reinforcing the area the documents were housed in 3 days earlier.

3. The warrant only covered materials belonging to the US Government and a whole lot more was taken. Thats going to be a problem too.

4. If you think this billionaire who did not take a salary as our president is going to sell nuclear secrets to foreign governments under the eye of our own government which knows the documents he holds... You are in a cult. You may need help to escape it. I will do anything i can to help you.

 

No Garland sat on the warrant for several weeks before taking it to the judge.

 

I bet it's easier to take documents from the NA than from Trump's property unless you have proof something was taken?

In April 2005, Berger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material from the National Archives in Washington, D.C.[23]

 

Because you can't ignore the current protocols already in place, that's why.

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And what current one is that Trump signed? I will give you a hint, there isn't one

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Again, having authority does not mean ignoring the laws, does it? Or you are arguing for totaritarianism, which is what you guys want anyways and that goes totally against the Constitution.

 

No, its not. If it was that easy, then Trump would not find it necessary to appoint two persons to represent him, right?

 

Another conspiracy theory.

So you are now arguing that the warrant was on Garland's desk for how long? A month? A year? How long in this conspiracy theory of yours?

 

1. President can declassify, but there is a process to ensure the proper parties be notified that classified documents no longer have legal protection.

2. The FBI allowed them to keep some documents believing all of the classified one's had been turned over. However, an informant notified them that Trump's lawyers lied and still had possession of sensitive material.

3. I'm not sure what was taken besides his passport, which was returned.

4. He is a billionaire, but always asks his followers for money. Go figure.

 

current protocols don't matter we were talking about when Trump was president that's not current.

Further when he was the executive he defined protocols he was the commander in chief.

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this doesn't matter it would have happened when he was president and that's not current.

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what laws are you talking about current ones that were made after the fact? Do you even know?

Also yes having authority over laws means having authority over laws.

No I'm actually just stating that the constitution is correct. Article 2 section 2 States that he is Commander in Chief

You know what that means?

 

Still haven't produced any evidence your right though have you? No one single official order or document from the Presidents office proving his word is enough. All the while ignoring the fact that his own Chief of Staff provided sworn testimony to a Federal Court at the Presidents direction stating that this was not the case. (All of which is a matter of record.)

All you've have as 'proof' is your own uninformed, non-expert opinion. But apparently that trumps everything else, including reality. (Well at least you think so.) Why you even know more about the topic than the ex-Presidents former Chief of Staff! And fair enough I say. I mean he only worked day in, day out beside the President as one of his closest and most trusted personal officials. What would he know about anything?

 

well yes I have the evidence is that the president is the Commander in Chief you don't like that reality so you pretend it doesn't exist.

irrelevant statements are irrelevant is the president the Commander in Chief yes or no?

Do you know what that means yes or no?

Well it's not my opinion that the president is the commander-in-chief that's what it says in the Constitution.

 

Was Clinton impeached?
Yes he was.
Was he removed from office? NO he wasn't. But we all know he lied to congress. Even though they had evidence he did.

 

I don't pay attention to what you say.
But you are claiming there is some EO that turmp followed to declassify documents.
Or has some legal means that he could just wave a magic wand to declassify documents.
But since you have no evidence of that, it seems it's just made up.

 

Link?
Why?

 

What are you a parrot? You keep repeating the words 'Commander in Chief' by rote like they're some kind of magical spell that makes anything you say afterwards true! Yes the President is Commander in Chief. So what? That doesn't mean he can say or do anything he frigging wants. He is not emperor of the known universe! The authority of the President to act is bound not just by the Constitution but the a host of duly enacted laws and regulations. And even if something (like declassifying documents) is well and truly within his power (which it is) that doesn't mean there aren't processes that need to be followed once he makes that decision.

But here is the point I find incomprehensible.

The President of the United State directs his own Chief of Staff to present sworn evidence in open court that the President's public statements about declassification do not in and of themselves automatically mean a document is declassified and you? You think that act has no consequences. That a member of the President's staff can represent the office of President in court and lie as he pleases. You should write to the founding fathers and let them know there's no such thing as the separation of powers. I'm sure they'll be shocked to know.

 

so he's the commander He commands that's what that means. Chief is the position is in nobody else out ranks him.

that's why I didn't say he could do whatever he wants he can declassify documents under the executive branch.

he doesn't have to be in order to be the leader of the executive branch.

list the laws that say he can't declassify documents that are classified under his authority.

just because you don't understand how it works doesn't mean they're just has to be some make believe process that you pulled out of your behind that must be followed.

all things that are classified under the executive branch are classified by the presidents authority. To say he can't declassify anything that he allowed to be classified is absurd.

 

Raise Biden's numbers going into the midterms.

 

The crap Clinton was impeached on was just as ridiculous as the worthless current politicians accusations about President Trump.

Did Clinton cheat? Who cares!!
Did he lie about cheating? Who cares!!

That was between him and his family to work out.

Another complete waste of taxpayers money.

 

The question is why did Garland wait so long before submitting the request for a warrant when we are being told this was a national security issue and needed to be address immediately?

https://www.businessinsider.com/mer...ed-for-weeks-over-trump-search-warrant-2022-8

 

Ah I see. I figured it was some sort of conspiracy theory belief.

 

You realize, it was an unprecedented step to take. So, he had better been right or have ample evidence to move forward on it.

 

So?
The point is, they are both impeached presidents.

That was my only point. You're trying to claim they are not impeached. But they are, just never removed from office.

 

You realize Garland has said this was a national security threat and the LSM continues to push that narrative. He better have been right.

 

Nope did exactly what it was meant to do

 

Well dairy you get it, I'm extremely surprised.