Are you ok with illegals flooding the U.S. borders? And why are you ok or not ok?

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This issue has been discussed and debated on this forum for years. Why do we need another thread that lends itself to venting hatred?
     
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    Why do we need a million posts/threads on abortion? Why do we need a million posts/threads on gun rights/gun control? Why do we need a million posts/threads on any political subject?

    All of which can be claimed to "venting hatred".
     
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    You’re absolutely out of your mind. If you think I’m going to accept fault for something that happened 500 years ago, as if I, or my family personally did it, you can go find the biggest mound of sand you can, and go pound it.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Well put your money where your mouth is and give yours up. Your ancestor did something to mine so you owe me a thousand bucks.

    I'll PM you my cash app info...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump hired illegals and that is why they come here, for the jobs

    go after the employers and they stop coming
     
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    Prove that Trump hired illegals.

    Do you even know how difficult it is to prove that someone knowingly hired illegals? Which IS the standard you know. Prosecutors have to prove that someone KNOWINGLY hired illegals. Not an easy thing to prove in most cases.
     
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    My ancestors are in Germany.
     
  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You think Trump actually hires the staff? Lol.
    Trump wanted to build a wall to benefit Americans and the security of our border.

    Biden is using a half a million taxpayer dollars to build a wall around his beachfront home.

    The only wall space bidet Brandon builds is the one that benefits him.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Over here all by your lonesome huh?
    You realize most every piece of land on Earth is currently occupied through historical conquest right?
     
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    You wanna convince the govt to give you my tax dollars go for it.
     
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    I am completely ok with it because the United States was created by millions of people migrating to the land mass without let or hindrance.
     
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    Not sure of the point? REALLY? LOL

    Don't know how to read a graph?

    While the number of encounters was the highest on record last fiscal year, the number of individuals encountered was considerably lower. That’s because more than a quarter of all migrant encounters at U.S. borders in both fiscal 2021 and fiscal 2020 (27% and 26%, respectively) involved repeat crossers, according to CBP statistics. By comparison, the proportion of repeat border crossers was much lower in the 2019 fiscal year (7%), before the Border Patrol began regularly expelling migrants during the coronavirus outbreak.
     
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    Unlike a good percentage of liberals.... I don't feel like anyone owes me a damn thing. What I have, I worked for.

    I don't expect someone that never did anything to me to apologize to me for things that never happened to me. But I guess I'm just unreasonably reasonable like that...
     
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    You mean secret service is doing that. Correct. Did Biden promise Mexico would pay for it?
     
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    My gawd, you righties will not even accept that the FBI warrant was legal, AFTER his shifting explanations and affidavits that showed he was careless with national security secrets!

    Of course he knew, he just didn't care, like the boxes and boxes he continued to keep from the National Archives!
    [​IMG]
     
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    The secret service must believe that walls are effective....

    Maybe the secret service can use a fraction of the billions we're sending to Ukraine and build a wall on our own damn border instead of worrying about the border in some other country
     
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    Oh look an unsupported claim.... I would use the mention function to point this out to people that were recently criticizing me for something similar but I would probably get accused of calling them out
     
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    You guys will not accept even though his accountant plead guilty, that the Trump Org (DJT) was involved, lol

    Allen Weisselberg, who for decades was one of Donald Trump's most trusted and loyal employees as chief financial officer of the Trump family business, pleaded guilty on Thursday to 15 counts ranging from grand larceny to tax fraud to falsifying business records, becoming the latest person close to the 45th president to plead guilty or be convicted at trial of a felony.

    Weisselberg changed his 2021 plea of not guilty to guilty in state court in lower Manhattan. Under an agreement made with prosecutors and detailed in court, Weisselberg will serve five months in prison and receive five years probation, in exchange for testifying at the trial of his former co-defendant and longtime employer, the Trump Organization. He agreed to pay $1.9 million in back taxes, interest, and penalties, to New York State and New York City.
    https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1117948260/allen-weisselberg-trump-employee-pleads-guilty-felony


    During more than five years as a housekeeper at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Victorina Morales has made Donald J. Trump’s bed, cleaned his toilet and dusted his crystal golf trophies. When he visited as president, she was directed to wear a pin in the shape of the American flag adorned with a Secret Service logo.

    Because of the “outstanding” support she has provided during Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with her name.

    Quite an achievement for an undocumented immigrant housekeeper.

    ...There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of their immigration status. But at least two supervisors at the club were aware of it, the women said, and took steps to help workers evade detection and keep their jobs.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html

    NO PAYWALL LINK
    https://archive.ph/4RQQC


    Trump’s golf course employed undocumented workers — and then fired them amid showdown over border wall


    They had spent years on the staff of Donald Trump’s golf club, winning employee-of-the-month awards and receiving glowing letters of recommendation.

    Some were trusted enough to hold the keys to Eric Trump’s weekend home. They were experienced enough to know that, when Donald Trump ordered chicken wings, they were to serve him two orders on one plate.



    But on Jan. 18, about a dozen employees at Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, N.Y., were summoned, one by one, to talk with a human resources executive from Trump headquarters.



    ...The sudden firings — which were previously unreported — follow last year’s revelations of undocumented labor at a Trump club in New Jersey, where employees were subsequently dismissed. The firings show Trump’s business was relying on undocumented workers even as the president demanded a border wall to keep out such immigrants.

    ...This Trump golf club does not appear in the government’s list of participants in the E-Verify system, which allows employers to confirm that their employees are in the country legally.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f75d66-20c5-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html

    NO PAYWALL LINK

    https://archive.ph/XJVrU

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    The actual relevant part of your link directly States..... There is no evidence that Trump or Trump associates knew of their immigration status.

    But then again you guys don't need evidence....
     
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    Oh I get it now, you don't know how Gov't works. You see under Trump HE decides how money gets moved around from the money allocated (By Congress) to DOD, to build "the wall" Mexico is going to pay for

    Under Biden, it's not the SS that allocates or directs, but Congress

    I know that poor Putin doesn't just get his way, like with DJT right?

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    I admit Trump and his Org know how to crime really well.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ahhh.. related to actual real Nazi’s perhaps?
     
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    That might be Drumpf
    Drumpf is a German surname that dates back to the 16th century. It is most commonly known as the likely predecessor to the family name of Donald Trump

    ... he complained to his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, a retired Marine general, asking why he and others couldn’t be “totally loyal” to him, like the “German generals in World War II.”
     
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    Oh wow you have another meme to support your unsupported claim.... That's terribly convincing
    Sarcasm alert
     
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    Lol you’re absolute weak-sauce.
     
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