How Christian Truth Became Hate Speech

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  1. yardmeat

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    Still doesn't answer the questions.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    So if I was a baker in a cake shop no one could coerce me into using my expression and creative endeavors into making an object that expresses for something that is against my fundamental religious beliefs on their behalf?
     
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    I agree, but as I said, you can believe what ever you want, you just can't use to to discriminate against others in the workplace

    that goes for finding out someone wears a red hat off hours, that is not an excuse to discriminate against a fellow employee
     
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    Most Christians, including you, forget the teaching in John 7:53 through 8:11 which the rulers of the law and the Pharisees brought forth a woman who "was caught in adultery." It is also where Jesus wrote in the sand the names of two men who also slept with her and were the accusers. Sadly, today, some Christian churches forget that teaching about "truth" on homosexuality and other sins.

    The Bible in Romans 12:1-2 also says that we Christians are to be transformed to the world, meaning we Christians are the light of the world, not by what we condemn, but by how we love our fellow man, even if that person is in sin. If you are in a business that sells to the public, why on earth would you deny such business and force your religious views onto others by denying them a cake, or a car, or prescription medicine that is a contraceptive? That is not religious freedom or exercising your religion, that is enforcing your views on religion to others who may not share the same as you. This is a further attempt to make this nation a "Christian nation" despite the fierce objections by our founding fathers in the Federalist Papers, their personal letters, and debate on the house floor. Finally, there are many views of Christianity ranging from Easter Orthodoxy, to Catholicism, to the various forms of Protestantism, each saying that their philosophy is the correct philosophy of what the Bible says. Yet all adhere to the Nicene Creed as their core belief.

    https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/bible-study/what-did-jesus-write-on-the-ground.html
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    Actually the number of people killed by states with the religion of atheism is what I said.
     
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    So, you believe that adding instruments to the music takes away God's glory when you sing a song?
     
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    They were writing what they were inspired to write by God. Except for the quoted words of Jesus and the law written by God the Fathers own hand .
     
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    I agree, but I also think some have taken "wokism" to a lever that is no longer anti-racism, but actually racism in and of itself

    the left needs to get back to reality on this one
     
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    Since they never met god then what they wrote was stuff they made up. As I said…to keep people in line with morals and ethics.
     
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    To be Christian is easy, to be Christ-like means sacrifice and I don't mean denying a cake to some couple who are gay. And that is not easy at all because we are human.

    All of the denominations listed think that their denomination is the best or "true" interpretation of what Christ meant. Some are blatantly flagrant about it with a class you must attend that states what they believe and why they are better than the other denominations before you are accepted as a member. At least, they don't force that onto you when you visit the church no matter how many times you visited.
     
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    There are times that "wokism" has gone to extremes, but if the leaders of "wokeism" can simplify their message of acceptance to all and not shame people for "cultural appropriations" from 50 years ago or something, then they would have a better messaging platform.
     
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    Like - Thou shalt not commit adultery?

    Why are you spending your days supporting a serial, and unapologetic, adulterer like Donald Trump? You rub it in the
    face of God every day with your continued support of Trump.
     
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    Exactly!

    Getting upset over someone saying "all lives mater" is a good example, they should have said, "of course all lives mater, but black lives matter too"

    like you said, we have to push for equal rights for ALL and acceptance of ALL - any of this "white privilege" nonsense where all whites are bad because of what some white Americans of the past did is wrong - it takes us in the wrong direction and actually causes more racism, both black racism and white racism
     
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    Marriage was created, defined, and regulated by civil governments. The conscious force that we are all fundamental parts of, which by the way is not your deity of choice, had nothing to do with it, at least not independently of the temporarily separated human powers that invented it.

    You are worshiping a book, dude. One with some wisdom in it to be sure, but still mostly an art of fiction created by humans just like you and me. But it's just a book. Silly thing to worship, methinks. For that matter, worshiping anything is silly and unnecessary. But, at the end of the day, that's up to you. Where I draw the line is when you and people like you attempt to use political power to punish those you find "disgusting". It's an inappropriate role for government in these United States.

    A lot of people do a lot of things that other people find "disgusting". If we outlawed all of them, we'd all be in jail for one reason or another. Likely more than one. What sort of world would that be?
     
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    So compare those numbers to the thousands upon thousands of years of theists killing in the name of religion.
     
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    Should they be the law or not? Should they sill be punishable by death or not? There is a reason you are terrified to respond.
     
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    who is trying to force you or your children to be gay - you either are or you're not, you can't be "changed"
     
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    This is YOUR thread. And there are many, many others just like it, all started by YOU! And they all amount to gay bashing, lamenting the fact that same sex marriage is legal, and wanting to find a way to undo that.

    Sorry, bro, the horse has left the barn. You can close the door by starting more and more identical threads all you like, but it's never going to change a thing. So maybe you go into the barn, close the door behind you, and you and your other cult members can sit there worshiping your book.
     
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    Well, birth is actually the leading cause of death. So far in the history of humanity it's proven to be 100% fatal, and it affects all religions and non-religions alike.

    I am curious though what it is that the "religion" of atheism actually worships. Can you shed some light on that?
     
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    Is someone coercing you to marry someone of the same sex? Is someone coercing you to have an abortion? How are you specifically being coerced into acting against your religious beliefs?
     
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    I like him, he says it like it is most of the time

    yes, the 1st Amendment supports all beliefs, even not believing - now there is Atheist religions, but Atheism is not a religion, and even Theism is not a religion, but there is theist religions

    in fact, when many of our founders refer to God or the Creator, this is to whom they refer - guess that is "proof" we are a Deistic nation if anything...?

    http://www.tfd.com/deists

    de·ism (dzm, d-)
    n.
    The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.
     
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    That’s most definitely not true. I would wager that the majority of trannies that became trannies did so with the help of porn and all the other perversion that everyone has full access to. They weren’t “born that way”.
     

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