Canadian police: 10 dead, 15 injured from stabbings

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  1. Reality

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    I don't suggest you try that. You can shoot until the threat is stopped.
    Generally speaking: Once they fall down you should stop unless they're pointing a weapon at you
     
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    AK-47's are FULL AUTO and cannot be bought with attaining a Class III firearms license beforehand. The thing you can walk into a gun store and buy without that may look like an AK-47 but is SEMI-AUTO ONLY. An AR-15 is SEMI-AUTO only also, although it may LOOK like an M-16 capable of FULL AUTO.
    My guns are designed for competition, hunting, and a fun hobby. None of them have ever hurt anyone.
    Stay in Australia and bend your knee to your betters who make the laws and tell you how to live.
     
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    Bro: Its still an AK47 even without the giggle switch. Like a dog is still a dog even if you chop its nuts off.
    AR15s are different than M16s because they were developed at different times and bear different designations.
    But a demilled AK is a demilled AK.
     
  4. Buri

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    You should totally do that since all you've done is make up strawman scenarios and waffle when myself and several other posters caught you. Besides, no one takes emotional anti-gun whining seriously.
     
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    You poor baby. Stop picking your nose and go to bed.
    :icon_picknose:
     
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    I'm going to shoot til the threat is stopped and that will be when the attacker is dead, or fixin to be dead. However many rounds that requires is how many it requires. Just because an attacker falls down doesn't mean he's no longer a threat. There isn't a credible self-defense shooting instructor anywhere on the planet that will teach "shoot to wound".
     
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    You doubt that?

    I don't know about Canada, but felons caught with guns are routinely put back on the streets and not even charged.

    Hell, they put murders and mass shooters back on the streets in leftist cities.
     
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    Ever see our Jim Jeffries give his super famous comedy sketch to Americans about how we see guns?
    Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control (Part 1) from BARE -- Netflix Special - YouTube

    I frankly doubt you could watch this outrageously funny video.
     
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    I'm going to wager almost all of us have seen that video. However, taking a comedians ideas seriously when it comes to saving your life is how you end up in another comedians’ set.
     
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    Sorry "Bro"... An AK that only fires one round for each trigger pull (semi auto) is VERY different than the military version which can fire an entire magazine with a single trigger pull (Full Auto). VERY different.
     
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    Yes, I know, but I wanted to point out Canadian law without getting into U.S. law.
     
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    How many laps around the yard do we have to take before anti-gun folks stop referring to semi-automatics as "assault weapons?" The latest, of course, is calling them "assault-style weapons." What in the heck is an assault-style weapon?
     
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    You can't keep shooting people after they're no longer a threat.
     
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    Define "no longer a threat".

    My description is "dead"
     
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    You might consider the consequences of going too far.
     
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    What is your definition of "no longer a threat "?
     
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    My definition or the Canadian legal definition? My definition is until the perp is disarmed and disabled.
     
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    Prime Ministers aren't kings. Trudeau is wrong.
     
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    the regulations on cars are about usage of the cars-not denying law-abiding citizens from owning commonly used cars. The fact is-regulations on cars has not been weaponized: 99% of those who want to limit what lawful gun owners can do are left wing activists
     
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    Yep, as I say, every America should own and carry a gun at all times. I suggest five year olds should be taught to carry a Derringer, upgrading to a 9mm by 10 years old and graduating to an AK47 or AR15 by the time they are 15. That way there's total security for everyone in America.
    Meanwhile us Aussies don't worry about guns 'cos there aren't many around.
     
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    O.k., I googled:

    Why some of Canada's worst criminals are released with the least supervision
    Author of the article: Jonny Wakefield
    Publishing date: Dec 30, 2018 •

    Every few months, Edmonton police issue a news release advising the public that a dangerous individual is being released from prison.

    Typically, the news release is topped with a mugshot of the person — usually a man — and a list of previous offenses. It will often include a list of conditions. Then, some boiler-plate language: the person will be monitored by the police service’s behavioral assessment unit (BAU), which has “reasonable grounds” to believe the person will commit another violent offense.

    Four years out of the police service, news of these releases still make Doug MacLeod shake his head.

    “In reading their files, you realize what they’re capable of doing and what they have done in the past,” said MacLeod, a former member of the behavioral assessment unit. “And the fact that they were released in the community with very, very limited supervision.”

    The subjects of those news releases are usually among the tiny sliver of Canadian prisoners who for one reason or another are kept until warrant expiry, the last possible moment Correctional Service Canada can hold them within prison walls.

    Prisoners are typically eligible for parole one-third of the way through a prison sentence, said Anthony Doob, a criminologist at the University of Toronto. The vast majority — 5,575 people last year — are released with conditions two-thirds of the way through a sentence on what’s known as statutory release.

    Both those classes of ex-prisoners are supervised in the community by a network of halfway houses and parole officers who closely monitor them and can send them back to jail or prison for even a minor breach of conditions.


    Edmonton had the most ex-prisoners per capita of Canada’s big cities last year, according to an analysis by Postmedia.

    But each year, a couple hundred prisoners are denied statutory release, typically due to their behavior inside. Correctional Service Canada recommends such detentions, while it is ultimately up to the Parole Board of Canada to make the call, Doob said.

    Last year, there were 131 such prisoners. Each underwent a “detention review” that determined they should not get statutory release.

    When they are eventually released, it’s up to local police units like the BAU to monitor them. There’s typically no controlled supervision — requiring them, for example, to live in a halfway house or be tested regularly for drugs and alcohol.

    Local police do their best but aren’t adequately resourced to deal with such offenders, MacLeod said.

    Doob said in 1986, Parliament gave Correctional Service Canada the power to ask the parole board to deny someone statutory release after a man recently let out on statutory release killed somebody.

    It’s resulted in a system that’s the worst of both worlds — where the public is put at risk, and the people who most need extensive supervision arguably get the least.

    “We’re going to go from a maximum security institution to the street and we’re going to wave goodbye, and we’re going to say, ‘And it’s not our problem.'”

    In the correctional service’s defense, Doob said many realize the system is flawed and that fewer and fewer prisoners are being held until warrant expiry each year.

    “There’s an understanding that you have to look at long-term risk rather than just short-term risk,” he said. “Short-term risk is easy: lock the guy up in a cell. You don’t have to think about it. And then you say, ‘Well, what happens when he gets out?'”

    https://canoe.com/news/local-news/w...sion/wcm/92627933-5c31-494d-998e-437cfe4a4363

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    Now we both know a bit more about Canada's penal problems! :)

    Most penalties are deserved, but in a lot of cases the emotions and circumstances that led to the crime would require special considerations and treatment.
    So many times it has later been found out that the person was not guilty.
    I am glad we Canadians have at least done away with the death penalty!

    If I may suggest one thing needed, that would be education. Starting in grade 10 boys and girls should be taught what the penal system looks like, what awaits them IF they stray from the straight and narrow path!!! And generally, how to avoid getting into the criminal scene in the first place!

    What do you think, Vman? Do you have some suggestions? Here is an opportunity to explore some improvements and let the forum members evaluate them.
     
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  24. Buri

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    I can’t say I’d lead with that in your next set.

    maybe if you did have your guns still you wouldn’t be getting arrested for not wearing a mask in your front yard, but what do I know about rights anyway?
     
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    My gun lovn' gun totn' relatives are in Texas. I am in South Australia. Texas has ten time the population of SA and two years back it had 75,000 Covid deaths.
    Meanwhile SA should have 7,500 deaths. As it was, with vaccines, masks and border lockdowns we had TWO deaths.
    That's a testiment to listening to medical advice.
     

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