Shipping illegal immigrants to "Sanctury cities" and other left wing elitest havens? Yes or no?

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Shipping illegal immigrants to Sanctury Cities/liberal elitist havens, yes or no?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Don't know

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  1. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    And Tucker on the issue!



    Wow. A resident likens the nation rapists to trash, as if DeSantis had driven to his community and dumped his trash there.

    Odd, trying to paste the link but it disappears.

     
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  2. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are human but they are not our citizens, Die or piss and crap, what is the difference
     
  3. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How are broke retirees suddenly not our citizens? Do you lose your citizenship when you run out of savings?

    Its been a while since I last saw him, but he is as much of a hack as he ever was, if not more. US has a caste system like in India? LOL. But heck, he his message sells, then he is a good investment for his employer. That's how the entertainment industry rolls.
     
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    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Are you unable to comprehend what has been happening ever Geriatric Joe took over? They are literally POURING over the border! And,yes, as I posted a few months ago (with links), many of them started out massed in caravans... then they broke up into many, many smaller groups for various reasons. But, as you could see if you would only admit it, they're all coming to the same place in their thousands upon thousands -- HERE! :omg:
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you deflecting away form the fact that you believed something you should not have believed?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I voted yes. Its not very complicated. Send them to where they are wanted and needed. If they aren't wanted or needed, they shouldn't be let in.

    As to why a 'sanctuary' would neither want nor need them and thus send them away, someone from a sanctuary will have to answer that one...
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps. At best, an unintended consequence, at worst, outright collusion, aiding, and abetting. I know, you know, EVERYONE knows that well over 90% of these "asylum" claims are bullshit. "I want a better life for my children", whilst noble sounding, is not a qualifying condition for asylum, nor is there any requirement that these people be released into the interior of the US, where the overwhelming majority of them disappear into thin air, take jobs from real Americans, depress wages, and commit more crimes, in addition to the one they committed crossing the border or overstaying their visa in the first place.

    They have no place here. They don't deserve to be here. They deserve a one-way ticket home that their country gets a bill for. As goes Martha's Vineyard, so should the entire country. Deport, deport, deport. Oh, we'll give then their theater of illusory "asylum". at some day in the future, if they bother showing up. And then, we'll send them packing yet again.

    So long, farewell, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
     
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  8. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't commit "aid and abet" legal asylum seekers. Laws need to be either followed or changed.

    Sorry to say, but its you who does not respect the laws since you constantly demand they should be disrespected.

    Their claim needs to be reviewed and rejected or approved. Its as simple as that.

    Ironically DeSantis flew them from Texas (he lied about them being in Florida), where they reject 80% of applications to a blue State where they approve vast majority.
     
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    you are correct the laws are the problem open the border and let them in, no welfare. this will stop the applicants from coming. Everything free in America!! but no longer
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The claim that they come here just to collect welfare is a myth, so "no welfare" would not make any difference. They come here to start a new life, and vast majority are looking to work and earn money, and they do work, - hard.

    Ideally we would have a program which would allow then to legally apply (in their own countries) for temporary work permits in low-skill / no-skill fields where (and when) we have a demand.

    Everything free.....? According to what, or who? Is everything free for you?


    Immigrant Eligibility Restrictions
    Categories of Immigrants: “Qualified” and “Not Qualified”
    The 1996 welfare law created two categories of immigrants for benefits eligibility purposes: “qualified” and “not qualified.” Contrary to what these names suggest, the law excluded many people in both groups from eligibility for many benefits, with a few exceptions. The “qualified” immigrant category includes:

    • lawful permanent residents, or LPRs (people with green cards)
    • refugees, people granted asylum or withholding of deportation/removal, and conditional entrants
    • people granted parole by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for a period of at least one year
    • Cuban and Haitian entrants
    • certain abused immigrants, their children, and/or their parents [4]
    • certain survivors of trafficking [5]
    • individuals residing in the U.S. pursuant to a Compact of Free Association (COFA) (for Medicaid purposes only)[6]
    All other immigrants, including undocumented immigrants, as well as many people who are lawfully present in the U.S., are considered “not qualified.”
    https://www.nilc.org/issues/economic-support/overview-immeligfedprograms/
     
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    no welfare for immigrants, let them get sponsors like Harris, The fake squaw, fake combat vet Blumenthal, Fancy Nancy head HAG
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like I am wasting my time. Have a nice day.
     
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    If they’re sanctuary cites or states, it would seem they want illegals. But in reality, the old phrase, “Not in my Backyard,” applies to all of them. They’re in favor of illegal immigration as long as the illegals stay far away. This shows the hypocrisy of all of them. Let them all in as long as they stay 1,000 miles away from me and my sanctuary city or state. Not welcomed in these sanctuary cities or states, if they were, there would be open arms and these cities trying to get them all to go to their sanctuary city. It’s a case of the mouth, rhetoric saying one thing, actions showing just the opposite.
     
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    So, you think sanctuary cities like LA don't have illegals? Heck, they have more than anyone, so its very much in their back yard, and being sanctuary city means they will not house them in jails just to wait for Feds to show up. Miami used to also NOT house them because it was costing an arm and a leg, but now that everything is ran from the Governors (DeSantis) office in Tallahassee, the locals can no longer make such decisions and they are forced to foot the bill.

    Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but they have eight sanctuary cities: Amherst, Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Concord, Newton, Northampton, and Somerville. The Governor, who is Republican, allows it, so it is what it is.

    Clearly you don't even know what a sanctuary city means.
     
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  15. submarinepainter

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    Charlie Baker is a lot like Mitt Romney pretty much a great fit for Massachusetts.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its a bit weird that two Republican Governors would do something like this to a fellow Republican Governor, but I guess there are no rules in this GOP version of "Game Of Thrones".
     
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    Maybe not. But I think any sanctuary city ought to have open arms to welcome these illegals. They should not say, go away, I don’t want anymore. Keep them a thousand miles away. Can a governor overrule a city choice of being a sanctuary city? That may depend on what each state’s constitution says. Cities have certain autonomy within their states as do states in the federal government.
     
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    unsure I am not GOP, I like your comparison to GoT
     
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    So, you suppose that all the many video clips and other images of migrants literally SWARMING over our southern border are 'faked' somehow...? Sorry, Pro, but if you really do think that then you may have taken the word, "delusional" to a new level, or, you may be denying this travesty intentionally (?). :confusion:

    But why would you do that? We do frequently disagree on a variety of things, but I've never gotten idea that you are one of these America-hating, 'wokish' creeps who work every possibility to undermine our country.
     
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    Well, they are not illegals and they did take them in at Cape Cod, which is not even a sanctuary city, and neither is MA sanctuary State

    The whole sanctuary city concept here is irrelevant because these guys are not illegals. Can governor override it? A centralized government mindset would suggest that yes. In Florida such cities have been criminalized, which deprives local governments from having a say in how they want to run their own cities. As a result Miami is spending lot of taxpayer money to house people in jails for long time until Feds arrive to pick them up. Either way the sanctuary city concept relates only to illegal immigrants who have been arrested for some reason.
     
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    No, I said you made a claim which it total bogus.

    Now you are being ridiculous trying to make it about me and you even have to lie in order to do it.

    You made a claim which it total bogus. OWN IT!
     
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    Tucker gets that the story is about the hypocrisy of those at Martha's Vineyard while other shills are complaining about DeSantis sending "migrants" to go be with the "sanctuary" areas that are aghast at them actually showing up on their doorsteps.
     
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    Massachusetts is not a sanctuary State, and even if it was, it would be irrelevant in case of legal asylum seekers. The Governor of MA, who is Republican solved the problem by housing them 10 miles away at Cape Cod. Why does that anger you, or Tucker? Or are you angry, because Tucker says you should be?

    This stunt is absurd, not to mention that DeSantis had to lie to the migrants and to the people of Florida. If you support it, then so be it, but us in FL are down $615 000 to move 50 people from Texas to MA.
     
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    Actually, news says it is complicated when reviewing the sanctuary status of Mass.
    https://www.necn.com/news/local/is-massachusetts-a-sanctuary-state/2825222/

    "What is Massachusetts' sanctuary status?
    In 2017, Massachusetts' top state court ruled that Massachusetts court officers do not have the authority to arrest someone suspected of being in the U.S. illegally if that person is not facing criminal charges, the state's highest court ruled Monday. That's effectively gave the state sanctuary status."

    In reality, Massachusetts is as blue as it gets. It is very much associated with those creating the invasion.
    50 brown people showed up to MV and these mult-billionaires got on TV sobbing they have no resources with which to help these brown people that were likened, by the MV residents to "trash". They are causing this problem. It is past time they experienced a tiny bit of it. And even that was enough to make them lose their collective $##$ and call the fricken US military to move them out of their community.
     
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    The cruelty from the right IS the point.
     

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