Is anybody watching "Rings of Power"?

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    My example is Bridgerton. Where the queen of ENGLAND is a black woman...
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Fair, blond hair, never aging... there are a lot of references. Which is the whole point of the thread.
     
  3. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Hyperliberal, Leftist 'entertainment' hucksters think that by pushing inordinate numbers of Black faces on the screen (in movies, TV series, commercials, etc., etc., etc.) that -- somehow -- it makes a country that is only 14% Black think that being Black is something that is somehow 'larger than life' in a manufactured 'new-reality'....

    But, by manipulating the CASTS of shows to fit their 'feel good' agenda, they only create a keenly annoying distraction from everything else in the entire production, and make a shallow farce that is actually INSULTING to Black persons, while fooling nobody at all with what they've done in creating such 'entertainment'.
     
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Caucasians don't age?
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Elves aren't even HUMAN fercrissake. Maybe they don't have races or even the CONCEPT of races.

    How do you know they're not ALL black?
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It should be noted that there always were a LOT of black people in France, (from North Africa) and in Medieval times particularly there was no real distinction made.
     
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  7. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    In the books, elves don't age. Or didn't you read the books?
     
  8. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Can you point to the historic portraits of English Monarchs that resemble your comment?
     
  9. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Oh... then there was a Black Queen of England...? And, there was a Black Queen of France...? :roflol:

    No, seriously.... During the time during the medieval period when Spain was an Islamic state, Black Muslims entered Spain, and southern parts of Portugal. But after the 11th-century, this "Umayyad caliphate of Cordovain" held decreasing power until its last stronghold in Granada was conquered and most Muslims of all colors left the country. It was leave, or get tracked down by the Roman Catholic Church in the 'Spanish Inquisition".... :eekeyes:
     
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    You probably should read the whole thread before jumping in half cocked. I clearly stated that there could well be black and brown elves, dwarves or humans on some other continent on Arda.
     
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    Oh! My! Take a bow for that one! :p
     
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    Please stop there are only so many times one can get “owned”

    Edward III aka the “Black” Prince - although I will give you that the appellation was more a reference to heart over skin
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    Ahem, Edward Prince of Wales son of Edward III was the Black Prince. Heir to the throne but died before his father so his son Richard II became King.
    Named for the colour of his shield (most likely).
     
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  14. Pollycy

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    You wrote, "Edward III aka the “Black” Prince - although I will give you that the appellation was more a reference to heart over skin". Ah, well... without putting too much 'hot sauce' on my reply, YOU ARE WRONG. The "Black" Prince was the SON of Edward III, and, the moniker of "Black Prince" was because he wore black armor.

    So... "Please stop there are only so many times one can get “owned”...! :nana:

    [​IMG]. "Sorry, Bower... NO CIGAR!" :roll:
     
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    There's no evidence he ever wore a black suit of armour.
    He was probably named for the black background to his shield with also a nod to his great martial successes.
    He was not called that in his lifetime. It was first used a hundred years after his death.
    [​IMG]
     
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    History overcomes hollywood BS every time.
     
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    I'll let you contest this 'black armor' thing with the Encyclopaedia Brittanica: https://www.britannica.com/summary/Edward-the-Black-Prince . My response to Bowerbird was primarily to correct her error in Post #62 about Edward III: "Edward III aka the “Black” Prince". And, also to blunt what she obviously intended to be some kind of derisive 'snark' aimed at me by writing, "Please stop there are only so many times one can get “owned.:w00t: . Water off the proverbial duck's back....

    [​IMG]"At least I look stuff up before writing about them...."
     
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  18. Montegriffo

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    Perhaps you should have read the whole Brittanica piece rather than quitting halfway through the relevant sentence.

     
  19. Pollycy

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    The thing about 'black armor' was an attribution, not a nailed-down fact -- but it sure as hell had nothing to do with black people. Actually, an account from 1569 is more likely to be accurate than any justification that is "contemporary".... :roll:

    And, this 'black armor' thing notwithstanding, one thing that is a nailed-down fact is that Edward III was not (NOT) the "Black Prince" as Bowerbird declared offhandedly.

    At any rate, the rest of you are welcome to feast on "Rings of Power" if that is your taste. I'm having enough trouble choking down "House of the Dragon" without adding this disappointing "Rings" insult to Tolkien to 'my fair share of abuse'....
     
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    There are no accounts of him wearing black armour.
    1568 is just the first time the name Black Prince is used.
     
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    Well that's easy.

    Elven mythology is based on Germanic, Norse and English folklore which is why there were no black elves until about 10 minutes ago.

    That's why African folklore isn't full of white humanoids.
     
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    Were you furious about white Ramses, multiple white Jesus portrayals, white Persians, historically Asian and Hispanic characters recast as white? Meanwhile, I hate to have to explain this to an adult, but Tolkien's word isn't historical. They are fictional characters. And I have asked multiple times but no one on the forums so far has provided and example of a Tolkien character verifiably recast from the original material according to race.
     
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    "Never aging" has nothing to do with the discussion. And "fair" can (and has) referred to more than just light skin. Tolkien specified that there were also dark elves. That doesn't necessarily refer to skin color, but there's as much reason to believe it does as there is to believe that "fair" means all elves were white. And Tolkien explicitly stated that not all of his elves were blonde and that some of them had dark hair. Dude, this is is just getting pathetic. Try reading.
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Tolkien was a philologist. He wrote stories to teach linguistic concepts to children and the idea grew from there. He was a contemporary of C.S. Lewis who wrote religiously based children's stories

    I've never really understood what all the fuss was about with him.
     

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