DeSantis, who opposed Hurricane Sandy relief, now desperate for Biden's aid as Ian ravages Florida

It’s why I’m all for reform. NO bill shouid have anything unrelated in it. Pork is an abomination. If you can’t pass something on its own merits than it shouldn’t be passed. Desantis was fresh at that time and had that same belief. Unfortunately the scum in DC understand they can’t sneak their pet project **** in without LYING scheming and hiding it. Pure scumbags. Most of them.

We should respect politicians for not voting for pork. Instead we applaud them. Typical.

 

What funny is DSantis did not need to "beg", Joe's was on the dole and deployment before the storm was visible. Joe will make Desantis look good because Joe's the POTUS of ALL AMERICANS. Country FIRST!

Honestly??!!! They are the epitome of the "Rules for Thee, but not for Me" crowd since the Tea Party was triggered by Obama.

One word^: NONSENSE

Well, the Floridian Latino community evangelical leaders/pastors are beating their pulpits, so faith gonna drive that vote regardless of what their lying eyes actually see/process.

 

The refreshing thing about Biden is that he's not a grubby ideologue like many modern pols. He actually sees the job as being a good public servant and he will always rise to occasions like these. If Desantis had any class, he would do the same.

 

Astute observation, spot on analysis of Joe's governance.

 

It's an epiphany. The ambitious, calculating, cynical authoritarian has overcome petty, vindictive hyper-partisanship, eschewing cheap stunts that callously use desperate people as political pawns, and embraced the Big Government largesse he once reviled, emulating the President's magnanimous humanity.

'Tis better to give in and receive.

Perhaps, I'm being overly optimistic.​

 

They wouldn’t need the government assistance if people like you wouldn’t advocate having their money stolen from them to pay for it. They could save said money and use it themselves. And FAR more efficiently than the government does.

 

No, they have just stopped trying to pretend otherwise since then. The attitude is foundational to conservative politics.

 

OK, I'm good with this^ but I still think the the R party has(d) principled (read as a working moral compass) conservatives that would always put country first before Trumpism (read as their radicalized element). But, that appears to be a dying breed now since they are dominated by grievance, victimology and party first ideology (read as zealotry).

 

The people of Florida in need should not have to suffer because of their hypocritical governor. But I think they should be reminded of his hypocrisy when it comes time to vote.

 

I don't disagree with any of that as such, I just don't think it fully covers what is being discussed here. In relation to this topic, it was clear from the start of the 'Reagan revolution' that 'small government' was supposed to be applied selectively. Not just in terms of handing out money, but stuff like law enforcement and bodily autonomy. Attempts to fit that all into some coherent & moral framework have always been half hearted, I suspect because the people doing it knew it was only ever a fig leaf.

What you do instead is just reinforce the idea that when government intervenes in a way GOP supporters want it is OK because it is what they want. Once you simply define anything you want as acceptable then so much other stuff becomes easier.

 

Yes, this must be it, if the government didn't steal their money, they would all be able to repair their flood-damaged houses themselves. The typical delusional individualist dream. If they are all such individualists, why didn't they have flood insurance in the first place? Because they wanted to save money -- err -- spend it on crap they don't need. In reality, that's how it would work in the absence of taxes: People would spend the tax money, rather than save it, and then they would become destitute if a hurricane comes through destroying all of their belongings. Must be the individualist dream.

Note: I fully realize that the people affected by the storm are from all stripes of backgrounds and political leanings -- unlike DeSantis, who brushes all Martha's Vineyard residents and all immigrants with one stroke, for political gain. And now he whines when people pay him back in kind.

 

Why is DeSantis a hypocrite?

 

Voting against the relief bill for Sandy but having his hand out for relief now.

 

Yes. That’s called personal responsibility and personal accountability. I know y’all don’t know anything about those topics but you should look them up. They’re pretty interesting.

 

You're not telling the rest of the story. He voted against it, like many others, because it was filled with pork that had absolutely nothing to do with the victims of Sandy. If Ian relief bill also included 10 billion to build part of the border wall, do you think all dems would still vote yes?

So again, why is DeSantis a hypocrite?

 

This is the bill. What do you see as 'pork'?

• $16 billion for Housing and Urban Development Department community development block grants.
• $11.49 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's disaster relief aid fund for Sandy and other disasters. The money is used for shelter, restoring utilities and meeting other immediate needs.$10.9 billion for New York and New Jersey transit system recovery projects.
• $10.9 billion for New York and New Jersey transit system recovery projects.
• $5.35 billion for Army Corps of Engineers projects for Sandy-related damages and protections against future storms.
• $2 billion for the Federal Highway Administration's emergency relief program to repair storm-damaged federal highways.$836 million to the Department of Interior for repairs to national lands.
• $476 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, much of it for programs and equipment to improve weather forecasting.
• $274 million for repairing Sandy damages to Coast Guard facilities.
• $235 million for repairs Sandy damages at Veterans Affairs Department facilities.
• $30 million to the Federal Aviation Administration for facility and equipment maintenance.

 

Yep, "personal responsibility" when it suits the conservative agenda, hand open for government bailout when they are in need. We know the spiel, nothing new.

BTW: Please don't lecture me on personal responsibility. I have never asked for a dime from anyone else, including the government, in my lifetime. However, unlike conservatives, I am not delusional enough to think that there will never be a time when I may need a helping hand, too.

 

That never happened. He didn't vote against any relief package.
DeSantis was voting against increasing the borrowing authority of the National Flood Insurance Program without offsets elsewhere. He also stated the flood victims of Sandy who purchased flood insurance should have the claims paid. He wasn't voting against federal aid, which he has requested for Florida.

But the leftist media always only tells their side of the story which leaves out facts.

 

Its more like, reporting responsibility when it suits the media. So they gin up a fake story and the left falls for it every time.
At no time did DeSantis vote against any relief bill for Sandy.
DeSantis was voting against increasing the borrowing authority of the National Flood Insurance Program without offsets elsewhere. He also stated the flood victims of Sandy who purchased flood insurance should have the claims paid. He wasn't voting against federal aid, which he has requested for Florida.

But the leftist media always only tells their made up side of the story which leaves out facts.

 

Socialism that benefits ME is patriotic aid

 

wrong

the grove owners are very wealthy and can take the hit ..most if not all have crop insurance

and besides ..some will actually be ahead once the government handouts are doled out..becasue they wont have to pay the usual labor

the handouts will be based on previous years crop average sales..

between crop insurance and government welfare, the farmers of florida will be fine

 

So let me make sure I understand your position. You expect conservatives to be FORCED to pay into something they don’t want to pay into and yet not be able to get any benefits from the program you’re forcing them to pay into because they disagreed with you in the first place?

Or when they do take those benefits you forced them to pay into you get to cry about it because they disagreed with you in the first place even tho you’re still forcing them to pay in?

Is that about right?

 

dont worry, deathsantis is getting plenty of action from the federal government

the money given to Florida for covid relief was so HUGE deathsantis spent MILLIONS on other issues .

like renting airplanes to send people from texas to Rhode island at the cost of $12,000 a person

the $650,000 he used as a political stunt in texas sure could have been used to help Floridians in time of need

hopefully he will now use some of that covid money to help the victims that had their lives destroyed by the storm

my guess is many of those snowbirds will now take the Florida money and return north and never return

Florida is a great state until it gets hit with a hurricane..

after a hurricane , the cold weather and cost of living in blue states will be acceptable

as a south flroida resident for over 20 years I met thousands of blue state migrants come here to live

then after a year or 2 most returned north because of the heat and low wages and rising cost of living

every few years Florida gets hit with a major storm..it has NOTHING to do with climate change

Hurricanes have been hitting the Caribbean islands and Florida for thousands of years and will be for thousands years to come

despite the above fact, people spend their life savings on a home next to the ocean...

personally, I am searching for a place with a mountain view!!

 

Any money going to hurricane victims instead of the social elite in blue states is considered pork.

 

He voted against giving federal aid to New York and New Jersey. Period. Homeowners needed that flood insurance money.

What offsets are being implemented for disaster relief?