Sorry Liberals, But The Nazis Were Progressive Leftists

The UN convention on Human Rights does not include these things either.
Clearly you haven't read it.
They are results of legal cases.
Your quote says your freedoms may not be exercised contrary to the UN.
So you are committed to complying with the UN .

 

Shall we talk about your argument about "poor white people?" Isn't that Identity politics by definition? Or shall we talk about Critical Race theory and the GOP? The War on Christmas? The Christian Nationalist nation? The

https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2018/03/22/how-republicans-embraced-identity-politics

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...explains-the-fight-over-critical-race-theory/

https://psmag.com/social-justice/republicans-are-the-main-purveyors-of-identity-politics

 

Socialist/communist has a very negative connotation here in the US and the way the GOP uses such terms and links those terms to the USSR or Venezuela or Cuba is the fear the GOP is instilling. That is how the GOP does this.

BTW, fear of God was used as a figurative speech, not in a literal context.

 

If all is being used, what exceptions are there?

ersonally, you are reading what you want to read, not actually what it says nor understand what they are arguing about.

 

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Article 24
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.


Article 25

2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.


Article 29

1. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
2. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

 

Correct.
None of the above can contravene UN principles.
Why are you trying to change the meaning of what is written? What is your point?

 

It is quite clear that some do not understand what socialism is.
It certainly is not a synonym for communism which was all about class divisions in the social sense and the disappearance of the state in economic terms.

 

And why should I give one slight tiny damn what the UN declares as their principles?

ESPECIALLY when they don’t even uphold or enforce their own principles?

China is LITERALLY committing genocide as we speak. And yet they’re still massively influential in the UN.

 

lol, your opinion author is way outside of mainstream thinking and definitions.

Sorry tRumper. It's the right wing that's fascist, not the left.

 

Lol so does “all” include rich whites as well? You know those privileged whites?

And since you want equality, surely that means you want to eliminate the policies and programs which benefit minorities at the exclusion and expense of the majority. Right?

You want to eliminate people of color only safe spaces, POC only graduations and dorms right?

You’re cool with a White Congressional Caucus? And a Caucasian Lawyers Association and a National Association of White Accountants and so on and so on. Right? Just like the blacks have. Right?

You know. Since we are all equal.

 

I find it very difficult to even have the desire to respond to OP's like this, due to the biased non-factual opinions that are voiced.

Nonetheless and for the sake of showing data, fact, and truth, I will address this OP with an article that addresses the point given in the OP:

 

I’m not sure what they’re reading but I beg to differ.

We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalisation of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, the abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.


Sounds pretty damn liberal and democrat to me.

 

The words "we demand" is not in what the Democrats are saying. They are basing everything on the Constitution where it is all based on "We the people" and on the checks and balances that are specifically mentioned there.

You are talking about communism and not socialism and the Democrats are not socialists. They believe in elections deciding who in in charge.

If you want to go to the extremes, I also can say that Trump and the Republicans are Tyrants given that they want one person ruling and that the rich run the country. That is tyranny in clear form.

By the way, talking to people that live and think in the extremes is not something that I feel is worthwhile discussing. Extremes are what is found in countries like Russia, North Korea, Venezuela etc. If that is what you want, move there.

 

What are you talking about? The democrats are threatening to expand the court and COMPLETELY undermine the separation of powers.

They’ve weaponized our governmental agencies. The FBI paid a foreign operate Danshenko or whatever his name is… whose information they KNEW to be fraudulent and they paid him for it anyway. And whereas his insider that he was getting his information was supposed to be a foreign national, it was ACTUALLY a democrat operative being PAID to feed him information. The FBI KNEW this information was bunk and still used it to initiate a unconstitutional spying campaign on a soon to be president.

Furthermore the democrats just blatantly abused their congressional powers by staging a made for prime time television “investigation” where they edited testimony, shortened testimony, only produced evidence that was beneficial to their case and refused to present ANY evidence they had which was exculpatory. All while sitting members of Congress stated CONTINUOUSLY and without equivocation day in and day out that their investigational target was guilty of crimes including treason before they even started the investigation.

Democrats advocate for race based policy and reform based upon this absurdly preposterous idea of white privilege. The ENTIRETY of the democrat platform is predicated upon how the evil whites are screwing over everybody else and the democrats have to come in and put checks on those white people.

The democrats ARE the extreme party.

 

Says the guy promoting "The Dark Enlightenment"

 

It’s not equality to treat one group different than another based upon their race or ethnicity.

 

You are living ina fantasy world of your own making.

Use data and facts (not just words) to prove your statements. Otherwise, go and talk to someone else that doesn't have a brain and that is willing to listen to you.

 

Terms have become so muddled over the years that the only way to make sense of the chaos is to view everything through the lens of principle - specifically the principles of freedom.

The United States allows for a lot of variance from state to state; but it does not allow for the state to own "companies" per se.

The left has many clever and underhanded ways of getting around this, but in states where the citizens are better informed and more active in keeping their state government on a leash (red states), it is more difficult for the corrupt to have their way.

In blue states, it is "Katie bar the door". No outlandish con or scheme is turned away as long as everyone along gravy train gets their cut.

As long as the theft is wrapped in an emotional package, and presented as "compassionate", in the name of safety, in the name of environment, etc, there is never a shortage of fools that will blindly approve.

None of that meets the definition of "socialism". It's just lousy citizens being happy about getting ripped off because they don't know any better.

The only problem is - their irresponsibility is going to sink the whole ship.

 

Bold accusations, especially considering it's "(red states)" that are the most poverty stricken.

 

I had no idea how right you are until I read up on "The Dark Enlightenment" (ref. ShowdowX sig).

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It's no wonder he supports promotes tRaitor tRumps big lie, the insurrection and all that is MAGA!

 

That's true. Now they are trying to equate progressivism to communism and still don't have a clue with either term.

 

How a person chooses to distribute goods and services has nothing to do with fascism. Being highly authoritarian has more to do with fascism than being right winged (a capitalist). There have been right winged fascists (I can't think of any fascist right winged heads of state), moderate fascists, IMO, (Hitler) and left winged fascists (Mussolini). What Hitler and Mussolini, for examples, had in common was their high levels of authoritarianism.

 

Right wing fascists include Pol Pot, and some Middle East heads of state if they don't redistribute whatever revenue they have.
Yet authoritarian heads of state who do invest into their own country like Dubai or Qatar or Saudi could be termed left wing authoritarianism.
Other issues like civil rights are not really an economic issue. They are a social effect of authoritarian control.
Fascism is a complicated concept that covers many aspects of managing a country.
There are many combinations which may or may not be "fascism" but not all authoritarian states are not fascist. They have to include other aspects.

 

Are you suggesting that the right is not concerned with self interest?
Now that would be an open door to ripping off the public.
The US is so genetically wedded to the profit principle that it motivates anyone who is in a position to take advantage.
Your accusation that it is the left who are more likely to do this is both contrary to fact and counterintuitive when the left is more interested in investing back into the community.
If you think compassion is an emotional cover, you can easily check where your tax money goes.
Your snowball has already melted.